To loathe these sexist American sitcoms?

[Scarletohello]

Ok so these are the culprits,

Everyone loves Raymond
Two and a Half Men
How I met your mother
Rules of Engagement

They are all different but the themes are pretty
much the same. Demanding women, guys that are players, unreasonable women, tacit acceptance of treating women like shit. Crazy women, empathy with the guys, point of view. Just sick of them, I know that they are supposed to be lighthearted and humorous but just feel that the drip drip mysogony infects the culture and makes it so much harder for women
To argue against this entitled behaviour by men as it is so normalised and if you argue against
it you are deemed to lack
A sense of humour, be demanding, neurotic etc..,

Do other people know what I'm saying or is it just me...??

Yes love Parks and Rec and Modern Family too. Will have to check out some of those other ones!

Yanbu. I'll add Home Improvement to your list, with Tim
Allen. 'Nuff said.

Those shows used to make me never want to get married.

The ridiculous thing about Big Bang Theory is that all the men are utterly inadequate and yet they've effortlessly got together with very beautiful/ intelligent women who in RL would not even look at men like the male protagonists.

I liked it when it first started because the men were not heroic figures and there was some sort of reality about 4 inadequate losers lusting after the girl next door, but as it's gone on I've liked it less and less because they have tipped the balance towards being extremely redolent of sad MRA's in their basements and the women aren't even real characters. None of them would exist in real life, even Penny. They all come straight out of the fifties in terms of cultural/ political awareness re sexual politics and yet they're supposed to be functioning in the modern world. The women look like they've been written by men who don't actually know any women and whose only contact with them is wanking over them on internet web sites.

God and I can't believe it's been going for 7 years.

That long?

Don't know Raymond

like the other 3, they are funny.

in one episode of Rules of Engagement Jeff's extremely sexist father gets to be told to back off.
not an easy thing to do in real life.

if you don't like them why do you watch them?

I watch Big Bang with the kids because they like it and I used to like it. Also like to point out the sexism so that kids are aware of it.

Nothing like a feminist critique to get the fullest enjoyment from a comedy.

I know it was cancelled but I also loved Don't Trust the B....in Apartment 23. The 2 main characters were clearly designed to be cartoonish caricatures of 'good girl' / 'bad girl' - and were much more sympathetic. AND they were also the lead characters - not accessories to a man - unless you count Dawson .

Oh and I loved the also cancelled Happy Endings. All the main female characters were successful and had good jobs (I know, it seems a pathetic requirement but in the world of US sitcom this is radical) and the men were often the butt of the joke AND (again radical for a US sitcom) easy on the eye.

Is it too much to ask to cast good looking men in sitcoms??? My DH gets infuriated by King of Queens, ELR etc where all the men are pudgy and plain but inexplicably married to hot women.

Nothing wrong with men having a go at women. Comedy is the only genre where men can vent about crazy, slutty women etc without being accused of being sexist. At least let us have that.

sarinka
But it's true. If I had a rant about women I'd be labelled sexist, yet a woman can rant about men and that's ok. Comedy is a vital tool for men to express ourselves without fear of retribution.

agree with alphamale

and have to add that if there was no crazy slutty behaviour displayed by females, ever, these shows would not exist.

there's no smoke without a fire

I'd love more sitcoms about crazy slutty women. These ones like ELR, the women are always the regulators of behaviour. Always the police, never the lawmakers, never the lawbreakers.

You will be banned SAM because you are a goading troll, as noted by your trolling yesterday and the way you upset a survivor and 'historic reporter' of abuse.

You aren't funny mate. You are sad and pathetic - and rather cruel.

You will be banned SAM because you are a goading troll, as noted by your trolling yesterday and the way you upset a survivor and 'historic reporter' of abuse.

You aren't funny mate. You are sad and pathetic - and rather cruel.

/Rolls about laughing/ SweetAlpha you are my hero!!

Rules of Engagement is all kinds of -ist. And have you noticed in many American sitcoms, they never seem to show interracial relationships. A black man will always date a black woman. Why is that? Does it reflect American society accurately?

I never heard of any of them.

Amra

not true

Scrubs is all about JD and Turk's bromance!

Banana!

In two and a half men, there is a white man dating a black man.. So you are incorrect Amra

ESD, I know how HIMYM ends ;)

I'm also a TAAHM fan.

Yep, Zing forgot Scrubs. But my point still stands...if Turk started going out with Elliot, then we would have had a cracker of a show. The last one I remembered was Ross with Charlie...nothing else springs to mind.

Gelato!!

When I watch friends back I notice it's very sexist. Any hint of one of the males being slightly less than uber-masculine is met with extreme ridicule. So is intellect, when Ross talks about his job they all pretend to fall asleep.

In reality the lot of them would struggle to make 1 bloody friend

Amra

I know you are right. I can't think of any mixed couples.

Ramsbottom!