Circumcision: A Social Status in the UK ?

[Amazonia]

Curiously in the UK, circumcision is now a matter of social class. While the "ordinary" folks rarely circumcise, circumcision is prevalent in the upper class as well as in the Royal family.

And saying that men should have their penis butchered because you think it's dirty is what exactly?

Butchered?

Get a grip.

Alas, Math, Google is unable to tell me what is going on inside your head.

And you, sadly, are unwilling.

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Be careful with your search terms there, PigletJohn.

Yup, butchered. Sorry you find my body so trivial, but I don't want any of it snipped off thanks, and certainly not because you consider men dirty. You get a grip.

alas, math, you are still unclear on what you consider to be the difference between an unwashed unmodified man who you say smells of stale urine, smegma, and sweat; and an unwashed, unmodified woman who smells of stale urine, smegma and sweat.

Googling is actually a simple operation. You type the correct search term and you come up with a number of hits. You decide which is reputable based on your own background knowledge. A lot hinges on the search term, so googling what is going on in my head isn't going to to yield the answer to why the female genitalia do not require modification for the same of hygiene, or any special attention when washing beyond rinsing with water, and why common procedures such as douching, waxing of pubic hair in the name of hygiene and use of deodorant products are ridiculous and unnecessary.

Caveat - yes, sometimes it can be medically necessary, obviously.

don't be silly, math.

You may know what you mean, but Google certainly doesn't.

Are you're not saying.

mathanxiety why so patronising? People are asking you a very simple question. Why do you think an intact penis is unclean?

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The continued attempts to minimise FGM by equating it with male circumcision are nothing short of disgusting, and I will point them out and call shame every time I see them. Equating FGM with male circumcision is classic misogyny."

I agree. But you are using this as a way to avoid answering basic questions. Why?

Such as-why can female genitalia be kept clean by washing, but male ones can't. Could you answer that, in simple terms, please?

I am not using it for anything of the sort. I am calling a spade a spade.

Equating FGM with make circumcision otoh is a disgusting and dishonest and gross mischaracterisation of male circumcision and FGM alike.

Don't be silly, math. I have not said anything about similarity of anatomy. You are just making it up. But I would be interested to hear your opinion on two unwashed unmodified people who you say smell of stale urine, smegma, and sweat. Or perhaps don't.

I agree with you, mathanxiety.

Now will you explain why female genitalia can be kept clean by washing and male genitalia can't?

But using the gravity of FGM to distract the argument and try to arbitrarily justify the non-medically-essential removal of a part of the male anatomy isn't trivialising FGM then?

No, sorry math, but I don't understand your argument either, and I'm in the 'female anti-circumcision brigade'. (Actually no, I wouldn't say I'm anti-circumcision; just anti-circumcision-on-babies-for-spurious-reasons)

Male and female genitals can be kept fresh and clean by washing them with water. Just to spell it out, like.

I am calling a spade a spade.

I was about to tell you to stop digging that hole - it's getting deeper with every post.

You have not heard of toilet paper? Flushable wipes?

I am flabbergasted.

mathanxiety if you are referring to me, I don't equate FGM with male circumcision.

Good to know.