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AIBU about the blasted car?

116 replies

CrazyOldCatLady · 24/04/2014 09:49

Our car is out of action for the last two weeks; it's in the garage waiting for a new part to be delivered.

My parents have very kindly lent us one of their cars for the duration, because we travel 70km each way to work and public transport isn't an option (it would be a bus, then a train, then a tram, then a half hour walk, so probably a total of 3 hours each way and there's no way we'd do it within creche opening hours!). They're using their second car.

I can't drive my parents' car because I'm not insured - I'm on a provisional licence. Plus roughly half of our commute is on motorway, and I can't do that on a provisional. So DH is doing all the driving.

The car is a small engined automatic. Our own is a manual diesel with a bigger engine and generally a lot more power. DH detests my parents' car, he finds it unresponsive and it changes gear at ridiculous times (changing up a gear halfway up a steep hill, for example!) or doesn't change when it should (accelerating on the straight, it'll stay in a low gear till the engine is racing before it changes up). I know he's right, I'd find it annoying to drive too.

The problem is that DH emphatically refuses to adjust his driving to suit the car's limitations. He floors the accelerator despite knowing that it'll just make the engine unhappy. It can't keep up with him at all. He admitted last week that he knows he's mistreating it, that he shouldn't be trying to push it when he knows well that it won't perform the way he wants it to. But he keeps doing it. He gets angry and forces the revs up into the red - the same shade of red as his face while he's doing it.

We've had the same argument over and over for the last two weeks. My dad specifically asked me to mind the car as it's old and they need it. But DH insists on driving it badly, and when I pull him up on it he says it's the car's fault for being useless. I think he's being horribly ungrateful to my parents; they lent us the car in good faith, thinking we'd take good care of it, and he isn't. I feel he's forcing my to lie to my parents and I don't like it. Also he said he wouldn't treat a car belonging to his parents that way, but it's different because it's my parents. When I asked him why, he said 'my parents would never own an automatic' - which is a total cop out of an answer, and just comes back to blaming the car!

I'm utterly confused by all this. I'm so used to thinking of DH as a fundamentally nice person but at the moment he's coming across as a selfish, entitled git and I just don't like him.

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 24/04/2014 11:06

So he shouts at you.
Disrespects you.
Disrespects your parents.
Takes the piss when someone is offering to help you out.
Won't listen to reason.
Is angry a lot.
But... is relaxed some of the time!!
Really!???
What do you see in this guy?
Sounds like a total knob to me.

puntasticusername · 24/04/2014 11:24

"we can't agree who's at fault - him or the car".

Tell him that almost the whole of the Internet has agreed that it is HIM.

Sorry, op, but he sounds awful Sad

OneStepCloser · 24/04/2014 11:28

Tbh, from your last post he shouldn't be allowed to drive any car, he sounds bloody dangerous, but then I never understand the mentality of angry drivers.

But, the shouting at you, that I couldn't accept in a relationship, I dunno but it sounds as though you may have bigger problems than just the driving?

eurochick · 24/04/2014 11:29

He's a rubbish driver. A good driver adapts to both road conditions and the limitations of the car. He's not doing that.

A car should change down going up a hill if the engine is struggling in the gear it is in.

Merrylegs · 24/04/2014 11:38

I would return the car to your parents and hire one for the interim. He is obviously struggling to control it and is not the competent driver he thought he was. Don't be too tough on him OP. It must be embarrassing for him to admit he is out of his depth with this car....

After all, I am sure he is secure enough not to be defined by the car he drives. Oh wait....

LouiseAderyn · 24/04/2014 11:41

Read your posts as if they were written by someone else. You'd be asking the question ' why does the OP remain married to such a nasty aggressive and selfish man?'

LouiseAderyn · 24/04/2014 11:44

Your parents have really bailed you out and you and your h would be up shit creek without them and he is crapping all over them. They deserve more loyalty than they are getting. Take the car back off him today and tell him he is not ever to ask them for a favour as lobg as he lives. I really feel for your poor mum and dad.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 24/04/2014 11:53

Definitely return the car to your parents & then ask 'D'H how you will be getting to work tomorrow?

Let HIM sort out a hire car & let HIM pay for it. Be honest & tell him that you have returned it because you are unable to drive it & you are not prepared to let him continue to drive it like a twat.

My DH also has a tendency to 'blame his tools' as it were - i.e. he would most likely blame the car too - BUT no way would be continue to drive it like an arsehole after an argument/debate about it. And, FWIW, he would probably have treated something belonging to my parents better than something belonging to his own.

It sounds like he's rather pissed off that he has significantly worse driving skills than your parents Wink.

LookingThroughTheFog · 24/04/2014 11:56

I think you might need to make it very clear to DH, that if the car is in need of repair when it goes back to your parents, he will need to cover the cost of the repair.

Serotonin · 24/04/2014 11:57

We have a similar issue in our house - I bought an (awesome) old purple automatic escort. my DP hates it with a passion and moans every time he has to get in it. but as I keep telling him it's either that or walk - and it's ok now. I completely understand how you feel though, it's the overly aggressive driving and cornering, parking like an eejit and all round driving like he's in a sports car that winds me up.
At least there is an end in sight for you though?

LadyVetinari · 24/04/2014 12:13

Exactly what ComposHat said. I have an auto and would be furious if anybody treated it like that. My DDad is great at fixing cars, but told me in no uncertain terms that the results of stripping down and rebuilding a broken auto gearbox ( Confused ) aren't worth the effort, and the cost of buying a replacement auto gearbox ( Confused ) would make my lovely but quite old car a write-off. The results of your DH's actions might take a long time to show, depending on how much your folks use the car, but mistreating it in this way will shorten its lifespan.

I'd be returning the car, hiring a replacement, dedicating myself to getting a full license ASAP, and exploring the possibility of CBT or hypnosis as a more long-term solution to the underlying issue.

LadyVetinari · 24/04/2014 12:14

I don't know what caused these > ( Confused ) < to appear after the word gearbox, BTW... Odd.

catsmother · 24/04/2014 12:28

The car is an inanimate object. It does NOT have some sort of personal vendetta against your DH and his attitude towards your parents' property is absolutely disgusting. It wouldn't matter if it were the most ancient rubbish old banger, he has no right to treat it in any way except with the utmost respect, however much it pains his pathetic ego to do so.

It's appalling that he shouts at you and is, in effect, forcing you to lie to your parents. It's also appalling that he readily admits that if it were his parents' property he'd be far more respectful. WTF ? .... says a lot about how he sees you and them doesn't it. Has he no bloody idea how hurtful it must be for you to see him trash your parents' generosity the way he's doing ? But quite clearly he doesn't care.

Honestly, if he can't take care of the car then it needs to go back to them straight away. Letting him continue to abuse it is dishonest when they've lent it in good faith and when, as LadyVet has pointed it his mishandling might potentially mean the car being written off if it needs a new gearbox sooner than it otherwise would have done.

I'm afraid he sounds horrid OP, and dangerous to travel with as well.

MaryWestmacott · 24/04/2014 12:40

Your DH is being a twat, is he always a twat or is it just this car that's causing him to act like this? If he's always a twat, start getting rid.

If it's just this car, then ask him tonight when you are home and he's not driving the car, does he think that overnight tonight it'll magically change to being exactly the same as your car, because if not, then he needs to drive the car he's got, not the one he wants to have. That if he really doesn't feel that he's able to properly drive your parents' car without trashing it, does he want to arrange a hire car this weekend for next week and return your parents car because if he is incapable of driving it, it's unfair to distroy their car when they will need it. Give him tomorrow, the last day of the week, if he starts driving it badly tell him you'll be calling your dad to return it this weekend.

Then do it. Because you are clearly both incapable of driving your parents' car, so it doesn't suit your needs.

Your DH needs ot learn he can't just trash someone else's stuff and you are being just as bad enabling him.

Pantah630 · 24/04/2014 12:51

He's an arse OP, you need to give the car back before he breaks it. A thrash every once in a while won't hurt but continuous abuse will. Hire a car until yours is fixed. I hope he has many, many other redeeming features.

LouiseAderyn · 24/04/2014 13:49

And tell him if he fucks up a hire car with his shit driving he's likely to face a £750 excess charge.

withextradinosaurs · 24/04/2014 13:59

Give the car back. If someone lends you something you treat it with care and respect, and give it back in as good condition as you recieved it, or better - e.g a car could have a professional valet before you give it back. Your OH does not deserve to use it.

bigdog888 · 24/04/2014 14:42

And tell him if he fucks up a hire car with his shit driving he's likely to face a £750 excess charge

Make sure you never buy an ex rental car that I've driven - I drive them like I stole them but have yet to have one break on me.

CrazyOldCatLady · 24/04/2014 14:57

bigdog888, thanks for the input but really, you're plain wrong.

Driving the car the way he does will put unnecessary wear on the engine - that's why there are so many warnings out there against buying ex-rental cars, as you said. You might not break it while you have it but in the long term it's not good.

Plus you're sort of missing the point; as AlpacaLypse said, it's not really about the car.

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FunkyBoldRibena · 24/04/2014 15:07

Automatics are a different beast, if he can't handle that perhaps he needs to hang up his keys until he can.

teenybash7 · 24/04/2014 15:10

bigdog you're not only wrong, you're an irritating idiot, just like the OP's DH. Grow up.

bigdog888 · 24/04/2014 15:40

Really in all seriousness the chances of doing any damage in the long or short term are virtually negligible assuming that the car is relatively recent and has appropriate fluid levels etc. I'd expect any relatively recent car to be able to spend all day at or near the limiter and suffer no ill effects. Perhaps if it was driven hard for its entire life then its life would be shortened but getting a ragging for a couple of weeks wouldn't worry me in the slightest.

CrazyOldCatLady · 24/04/2014 15:42

Well, bigdog, that's great for you but I can tell you my father wouldn't agree.

Also, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE POINT.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 24/04/2014 15:47

bigdog, you need to read the OP properly.

She has already said it is an old car. And obviously her dad cares about it.

bigdog888 · 24/04/2014 15:50

I'm guessing your father has been driving a fair few years to have formed that opinion and it would've been valid 30 years ago, however modern engines are subject to unbelievable abuse during the development phase and it's unlikely that you, I or even your DH will get anywhere near that level. Whilst I appreciate that it's not entirely the point hopefully it'll put your mind at rest slightly that damage is unlikely.