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To be upset by this?

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VeryUpsetRightNow · 02/04/2014 21:38

First of all I'm going through a rough time right now and am feeling very weepy anyways so I'm not sure if I'm overreacting and I might be. You can tell me if I am.

A bit of background - I have Aspergers syndrome however I would say I'm pretty good at covering it up as I have good coping mechanisms in place. Usually most people would never be able to tell that I have it, sometimes I might come across as a bit odd and quirky but that's it. However because of my Aspergers syndrome I do struggle a lot in social situations - the way it is for me is that I often don't always know what's appropriate to say or when it's my turn to speak and have had some problems in the past where I've just said what's on my mind and upset or offended people. I get around that simply by staying quiet until I can get a feel of where I am and can then start mimicking other people. This of course leads some people to think I'm shy which I'm okay with as I'd rather that than saying what I think and then upsetting someone.

Anyway, I started my new job in January and I thought I was doing pretty well. As usual I've been spending a good portion of my time figuring out the social rules in this environment so haven't really been conversing much until recently however it's not a social job anyway so my boss and the woman who has been working alongside me and who has essentially been my mentor has said this doesn't actually matter.

There's a woman who pops in from another department every now and again and she usually stops for a chat with a couple of people before she leaves. I haven't spoken to her though - I'm usually at my desk working. So today she pops along and again I'm working at my desk. She talked to a few people first and then walked up to me and I, thinking she wants me to do something, asked what I can do for her. She then smiled and went "so you do talk!" Before I'd had a chance to answer she then turned to the man who sits opposite me and said "she can talk after all. I've never heard her talk, I thought she was a mute. So what's wrong with her then? Is she foreign? Is she shy or what?"

I think this upset me because she sounded like she was mocking me and I don't like the fact she asked him this rather than me. She then spent the next ten minutes trying to engage me in conversation, all the while throwing comments in here and there about how shy I was and trying to sit next to me (which made me panic slightly as I don't like people getting close to me and touching me, etc) but she just laughed at how panicked I was. She only stopped when the woman I mentioned above who I've been working with told her to clear off.

I then had to go to the toilets for a cry Blush, partly because of the stress of engaging in so much conversation like that unexpectedly and partly because things like this remind me how much I hate being the way I am and how much I wish I was normal.

I'm still upset about this now but not really sure if it's because of what happened and how people will always view me as odd or because I hate having this and not being normal.

I know I'm overreacting actually.

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greenfolder · 02/04/2014 22:01

from many many many years experience of people in offices, I would say she probably did not mean to be a bitch, did not mean to upset you, has no idea that she has or that her lack of boundaries had more meaning to you than anyone else she talks to.

others know her form and your colleague in particular felt quite comfy in telling her to sling her hook. i very much doubt she will come back for more.

have a strategy in case she does. Getting up and leaving (to go to the loo or a fictious meeting) is pretty failsafe.

Corabell · 02/04/2014 22:02

She sounds like a horrible, ignorant cow.

She was rude about you and spoke in a horrible way.

You are not over reacting. This would upset any NT too!

everlong · 02/04/2014 22:02

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Bleuuuuurgh · 02/04/2014 22:02

I bet everyone in the office knows she's a prat...! I've met people like this and they usually do it for attention.

Try not to let it bother you if you possibly can... Can you organise something nice to do after work or at the weekend so you've got something to look forward to?

whethergirl · 02/04/2014 22:05

You really are not overreacting! She is rude, offensive and intimidating. None of your behaviour that you describe is odd at all, whereas her behaviour is appalling. Just thank your lucky starts that you have your social skills instead of hers.

feathermucker · 02/04/2014 22:08

You're doing wonderfully OP, you really are Thanks

You've done great, so it would be such a shame to let this affect you too much.

Sadly, there are people like this about. Could you speak to your manager?

VeryUpsetRightNow · 02/04/2014 22:09

My boss knows I have Aspergers. I mentioned it in my interview and basically told him I thought this job would be perfect for me. Other jobs I've been in have been too fast paced and busy for me - sometimes I don't even make it past the probationary period. But I thought this job would be perfect for me as it's a very small office -it's only me, the woman I've been working alongside, the man I mentioned in my OP and two other ladies (it's mostly those two who Loud Mouth comes to chat to when she visits). Of course there's my boss too but he moves between departments. It's not a customer facing role and there is a nice routine and I'm literally working 9-5 with no change unlike other jobs where shifts would change all the time which I hated and made me panic.

I don't know if my mentor knows though. I haven't told her anyway.

The worst thing was the three other people in the office didn't say anything to her - merely just sat there looking uncomfortable.

I'm glad other people don't think I'm overreacting though.

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PolkaSpottyDotty · 02/04/2014 22:15

I wonder if she's a 'Queen Bee' and has treated the others the same, so they're reluctant to challenge her behaviour.

deakymom · 02/04/2014 22:18

she sounds like a drunk whore at a wedding!

edwinbear · 02/04/2014 22:18

You handled this difficult social situation with decorum and in a completely normal way, I think most of us would have felt thrown under those circumstances. She, on the other hand, clearly has her own issues with understanding and interpreting social norms.

goodmum123 · 02/04/2014 22:26

Go in tomorrow with your head held high and tell your line manager. Let us know how you get on xxx

WooWooOwl · 02/04/2014 22:30

YANBU at all.

Horrible work woman was a rude ignorant bitch.

Honestly, I'm shocked that a grown adult would speak like that to someone in a work environment. No wonder you were upset!

sunshinenanny · 02/04/2014 22:42

you say the other people in the office looked uncomfortable and she was told to clear off so I think you were supported.

Don't let this unpleasant creature upset you. I wish you well and hope things get better.Smile

pluCaChange · 02/04/2014 22:50

She was wrong (and very rude!) socially, and wrong professionally (to be mocking you for not "chatting" and wasting time as she does).

Any future approaches can be rebuffed with a polite, "I'm sorry, I have a lot to get on with here." She may well take offence (after all, no-one likes to be acknowledged as a skiver), but... well... she IS skiving, and, what is more, compounding that by trying to get others to skive, too!

You must be a welcome - and productive! - addition to the company! Smile

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VeryUpsetRightNow · 02/04/2014 23:04

I don't know whether to feel worse or better but about 45 minutes ago I got a text from the woman I've been working alongside as she wants to have a word with my boss tomorrow. Apparently Loud Mouth has been talking about me in a not so pleasant way in her department.

I text back asking what she has been saying and that she can tell me. She took a while to text back (perhaps didn't want to tell me?) but apparently she's been telling other people that I'm a 'weirdo' and other things and now I'm nearly crying again. Sad

Seriously I had this all the time in school and some other jobs but I thought adults would grow out of it eventually. Is this what I will have to deal with for the rest of my life?

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EverybodysStressyEyed · 02/04/2014 23:07

You're not the one at fault here an it sounds like your colleague is being really supportive.

Bullies will always pick on new people regardless of their behaviour. She has picke up you are shy. That's all. And she thinks she can use it to bully you.

Talk to your boss about what happened today. Your colleague is also going to speak to your boss. It will get sorted. You have support.

Don't let her spoil this for you.

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andsmile · 02/04/2014 23:13

I think it sounds as if the women you've been working alongside wants to stick up for you as in: she wants to have a word with your boss about the loudmouth, so not about you.

This would upset me ive got outgoing traits but I am very sensitive. I have had a bit of social anxiety and I can say that women would bother me. But I am not suer if I could have been as conposed as you seem to have been.

If this job is perfect for you and the other people are nice and are giving you the space you have signalled you need then please try to see this loudmouth one seem ignorant of social signals herself or is just mean.

plu has put some practical ideas there, you can always excuse yourself to go to the toilet. If anything she is ligering where she shouldnt and detracting others from there work.

Do keep a little diary of anythign though in case she bothers you regulalry and you need to take it further.

That job is yours.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 02/04/2014 23:14

She was rude and unpleasant. Anyone might well have been upset by it. It sounds like your colleague is supportive, so accept her help. Hope you get this sorted.

whethergirl · 02/04/2014 23:15

Is this woman for real? Please don't be upset by this foul mouthed bully, no wonder you feel like you're back at school, she is behaving like immature twat. I don't want to belittle your experience or difficulties you've experienced with having Aspergers, but this is really not about you. Your reaction to her was not unreasonable nor was it how many people without Aspergers would react. You are allowed to be quiet, talk when you want to, and to have space boundaries, like many people do, Aspergers or not.

Lozislovely · 02/04/2014 23:17

Oh very, none of this is your fault, it's hers.

Everyone is entitled to their thoughts, but that doesn't mean they have to be voiced in such an open manner. I have had my views about some people I have worked with over the years, formed my own opinions, rightly or wrongly, but that doesn't give me the right to voice them. Who am I in comparison to anyone else? I'm no better or worse than anyone on this planet. I have MH issues but that's no-one else's business unless I choose to make it so. By the sounds of it you've done bloody well to take on a job and try to get on with your life and some self justified 'being' feels she has the right to judge you - I don't think so!!!!

This woman (for want of a better word) is totally and utterly out of order, and in the wrong for saying what she did.

Just because you chose to be quiet (and that's something no-one has the right to judge on regardless of whether the person has aspergers or not) does not give anyone the right to bad mouth you.

Stick to your guns and believe in yourself.

olgaga · 02/04/2014 23:21

She's a nasty arrogant bully. You shouldn't feel bad about getting upset about her behaviour, lots of people would find it unacceptable.

Talk to your kind manager about it.

fairyfuckwings · 02/04/2014 23:32

It's really not you - it's her. She's a nasty bitch and you're a hell of a lot more "normal" than she is! Please don't think of yourself in such degoratary terms.

I've got 3 children and a husband and we're all a bit "different". We're all part of life's rich tapestry!

TrialsandTribbulati0ns · 02/04/2014 23:34

It's nothing to do with your Aspergers.

She's a bitch. And a miserable one at that.

NEVER converse with this woman unless your job requires you to. One more remark like that though and talk to your line manager.

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