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Workfare scheme for loan parents of children as young as 3, as of next month.

999 replies

WaterLoadaCack · 01/04/2014 21:54

kept that quiet didnt they

OP posts:
heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:15

He was going to but he got promoted 2 days ago so we are now on this craxy mission. Hes doing 9am-10pm so me and the cm are covering it round work and just hoping for best.

RandallFloyd · 04/04/2014 19:17

Seriously, give up.

Misspixietrix · 04/04/2014 19:17

fayrae not as rare as you'd imagine. My Dsis told me about the nurse on her ward that dropped dead after taking her kids to school. Her husband has had his world turned upside down and is now a single parent. Another Mother who went in for a routine operation...never came out and her husband had to sit his very young child down and tell him mummy isn't coming home again. They're not actually that rare. They just don't get the same media coverage as someone like poor lee rigbys family.

DontCareAboutYourShoes · 04/04/2014 19:18

What's the difference between benefits to live and tax credits to live? Or bursaries? It's all being paid by someone else. Hmm. We are bad for taking money to survive but it's okay to take money to do a course (which isn't necessary to survive)? What a load of shite.

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:18

so, he was going to quit his job when the baby is born?

so you could live off tax credits and your bursery?

which come from? Ah - tax payers money.

right?

So, when you are beating single parents with a stick... yet at the same time thought it was acceptable for your Dh to give up his job... so you could claim help.

right.

And how old is your other child?

Meglet · 04/04/2014 19:20

It's an appalling idea.

I've always been a working LP (not by choice). And me and my dc's are far more screwed up than the dc's of non working LP's. I cost the country a fortune in trying to keep my health together. And I'm about to cost them even more in counselling. That's to add to the tens of thousands of pounds I have received in childcare tax credits despite not earning enough to pay tax.

Typical Tories, they have no idea how hard it is to run a household, care for dc's and work. They wouldn't last a month Angry.

heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:20

I have 2 I was still going to work though?

DontCareAboutYourShoes · 04/04/2014 19:22

How do you work and do placements? And commute to Bristol from close by to Plymouth?

You're completely fictional.

YouTheCat · 04/04/2014 19:22

Heis, I am too old for all those loans and stuff now. But when I was younger it was an impossibility as there was no decent childcare for a disabled child (still isn't) and, despite being married at the time, my ex was wholly unsupportive so I might as well have been single anyway. I did a few night classes when I was able which did lead to a job eventually.

Things could be different if there had been support. I doubt forcing me to stack shelves in Tesco would have helped though.

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:23

also, i note, you dont have any experience of doing this, your mad 50 hours a week childcare, surviving on your bursary, isnt something that has happened yet. You havent lived with the practicalities of that.

Good luck when you are up all night and then have to go to work... or the baby gets ill, or, or, or...

might open your eyes a little.

though i am now almost certain you are not real.

bochead · 04/04/2014 19:23

heisenberg999

You just got exposed for the utterly entitled wee BSer that you are - scrounger Grin.

So cos you got your a man, you deserve to be supported by the tax payer, whereas the family that don't adhere to the Dolly Parton stereotype doesn't

OKaaaaaaay..............

Viviennemary · 04/04/2014 19:24

I wouldn't mind finding out what the system is in other European countries as regards benefit and working. Or even in Australia and New Zealand as regards to entitlement to benefits.

heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:25

Youthecat I am 100% anti workfare as I said from first post. They should support people who want to work instead of forcing people who dont on workfare. Heres to universal childcare in the future. I am looking forward to universal credit as you can work any hours and get childcare that is good for parents.

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:27

meglet - totally get that. I get more in tax credits than i earn. Have done for years. It would probably be far cheaper for the govt for me not to work.

and heis, you had 2 kids and was still working... with the support of your husband.

who was then all of a sudden going to give up his job?

hmmmmm

heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:27

Bochead - Dh was doing my maternity period whilst I work but unfortunately changes dont come in til 2015 so I was going to continue working full time as I do now.

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:28

heis - time to give it up.
you have been busted.

heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:29

Needsmorecake - Hmm

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:29

so he was going to go on maternity leave NOT give up his job like you said earlier?

which would have been paid or non paid?

DontCareAboutYourShoes · 04/04/2014 19:30

Am I fucking invisible?

Placements?
Work?
Travel to uni?

It's not happening!

heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:31

Maternity leave is paid for by your job

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:34

so, he wasnt going to be a stay at home dad? he wasnt going to give up his job?

which is what you said?

he was actually taking PAID paternity leave.

And yet you were still claiming all that bursery and tax credits?

and now, hes got a promotion, so hes not going to take the paternity leave, so now you have to put the child with a childminder.... while you try and both work AND do a full time uni course with travel AND placements, from plymouth to bristol....

right.

Hmm
heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:38

No we originally wanted to go with dh on my maternity and then found out changes dont happen until april 2015 and men cant take until 20 weeks so now we are carrying on both working but me taking a maternity leave as such from work but continuing with masters start masters in sept then baby following month. I have a childminder for baby, other 2 at place they already attend full time.

Bursary is 3k a year plus 188 a week childcare however if you do 16 hours each at least you get more help for childcare in form of tax credits for childcare which is a weird pain in ass but there you go. Statutory maternity pay is 135 a week.

Needsmorecake · 04/04/2014 19:46

well. wasnt that bad planning on your behalf. Should have planned better, its your own fault, so i have no sympathy. Any difficulty you face has been brought on yourself.

And thats the attitude you have been giving people all day.....

so thats what im going to give back to you.

still think its total bull though

heisenberg999 · 04/04/2014 19:50

It wasnt planning this is 100% my own fault. I take full reponsibility and I do know that. I wouldnt know why you would have sympathy its clearly a very dumb and stupid thing to do of which I am fully aware. I can admit that much dont worry Grin

RandallFloyd · 04/04/2014 19:53

So you are taking maternity leave from work and just doing your course, but you still need 50hpw childcare?

You both need to work 16hpw so you can claim tax credits but your DH is going to be working 13hrs a day Confused

Honestly, your story has more holes than Swiss cheese.
Know when to bow out gracefully.