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Workfare scheme for loan parents of children as young as 3, as of next month.

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WaterLoadaCack · 01/04/2014 21:54

kept that quiet didnt they

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usualsuspectt · 01/04/2014 22:18

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/04/2014 22:19

Where are all these three hour per day jobs that are exactly aligned with childcare slots going to come from?

Where are all these additional childcare places going to come from?

Where is the money for holiday time childcare going to come from?

And obviously if someone is going to.be working you must pay min wage

AmberLeaf · 01/04/2014 22:19

Workfare doesn't work though.

It doesn't help people into work.

It isn't effective in that way, it is just a vote puller.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 01/04/2014 22:20

But workfare reduces the number ode jobs available. Why are pay for people full wages for spongy a job when you can get cheap labour from the job centre? Its.a stupid system.

WooWooOwl · 01/04/2014 22:20

If it's going to give people the experience they need to be able to get a paid job, and the childcare costs are going to be covered, I can't see the problem.

People won't be forced to work for nothing, they are free to look for paid work if they want to, and they get benefits.

Forcibly removing the parent from the child can not be good for the child’s well being, especially if the parent is not ready to re-enter the workplace.

This sentence is hysterical bollocks.

MoominsYonisAreScary · 01/04/2014 22:20

13 weeks is getting on for £700 a year holiday childcare (where I live) and thats if they only have the one child

WaterLoadaCack · 01/04/2014 22:21

Green this work far thing is happening.

As of the 28th of this month.

I wondered that too Give

It wasnt that long ago a loan parent could be on income support until their youngest child was 12.

This is a huge leap in a short time.

Not a complaint, but an observation.

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GreenLandsOfHome · 01/04/2014 22:22

But that would be paid for Moomins

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ICanSeeTheSun · 01/04/2014 22:22

Benefits should be there for emergencies. It shouldn't be a long term thing.

There is no reason what so ever that a lone parent of a 3 year old can't be put on JSA and have to be made to look for jobs for then to receive this money.

I disagree with workfare regardless of situation as employers would rather this than pay for an employee. It just lines the pockets of people who are already got a good income.

GreenLandsOfHome · 01/04/2014 22:23

I agree it's a huge leap. A long overdue one IMO.

IS until age 12 is just unbelievable, I can see no justification for it at all.

PortofinoRevisited · 01/04/2014 22:23

Well I had to go back to work when dd was 5 months old to pay the mortgage, so on one hand I won't get all over emotional. On the other, I don.t at all agree with workfare type shite, where private companies get free labour.

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UnionofMultitaskers · 01/04/2014 22:24

It won't give them experience..they'll just be stacking shelves (no offence to shelf stackers) or cleaning in the stock room. They might actually be better qualified than that and have better experience from previous jobs

Ruebarb · 01/04/2014 22:24

I appreciate a lot of families have both parents working but where there is just one parent it just seems like extra pressure - I know a lot of lone parents work - that's great!- but parents should be given the choice up to age 5 I worked myself but my dh and I always ensured that one of us was at home when the other worked so did not have to rely on outside childcare - lone parents don't have that option.

slowcomputer · 01/04/2014 22:25

Very sensible.
It wouldn't be for free, it is in exchange for benefits. 15 hours a week is hardly excessive, with childcare provided. Lone parents are perfectly at liberty to turn it down, but then can't expect to live off the largesse of the taxpayer.

WaterLoadaCack · 01/04/2014 22:25

Woowoo working in a work place of the persons choice is how they get work experience.

Working in a pound shop is not good work experience. Its bullshit.

And yes, how many jobs actually have 3 hour shifts? Thats a genuine question, do they really exist?

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GreenLandsOfHome · 01/04/2014 22:25

In that case, they should consider placing them in public sector employment, not with private companies.

Schools seems an obvious choice to me tbh.

Your 3 year old goes to nursery, you work in the school doing whatever. No travel, no childcare costs, no excuse.

UnionofMultitaskers · 01/04/2014 22:26

They will be placed with companies as its part of their "plan"

WooWooOwl · 01/04/2014 22:27

If people have qualifications and experience then they can use those things to get a proper job. Or they could have gone back to their jobs when their maternity leave was up.

But when people don't have those things, then something has to be done to make people employable when they don't/can't get those skills on their own.

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MoominsYonisAreScary · 01/04/2014 22:27

Yes it will be paid for, what a waste of money it will be.

formerbabe · 01/04/2014 22:28

The most worrying part of this is that so few people seem to know the difference between

LONE and LOAN!!

BrianTheMole · 01/04/2014 22:28

Depends. I don't have a problem with it in principle if it helps people get back in to work. It depends if you have any choice on what you want to do, or whether people get forced in to jobs that are just cheap labour, with no job prospects at the end. I would have been happy with this, if the experience got me back into the field I had previously been working in.

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