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AIBU to now be thinking it was U for someone to say she didn't want to 'poison' her baby with formula?

95 replies

emeraldgirl1 · 31/03/2014 20:01

Knowing, as she did, that I had ff as I had really struggled with bf a year ago?
Been thinking about it since she said it (last week) and it's actually irritated me more than I thought at the time.
She's a fairly new mum so of course I can forgive lots of silly things being said in the haze of hormones and sleep deprivation.
But I've been hormonal and sleep deprived in the recent past too (actually I'm still massively sleep deprived; her answer to this was to tell me she'd be getting in a sleep trainer at 6m and she couldn't understand why people allowed sleep problems to go on so long... again knowing that my DD is a non-sleeper...) and I've never called anyone else's feeding choices 'poison'...
Just feeling a bit peed off.
And it's nonsense, anyway, right? To say that she didn't want to 'poison' her baby with formula???

OP posts:
Gileswithachainsaw · 02/04/2014 11:16

Some foreign fake formula in china that was totally unsuitable for anybody is a far far far cry from the much cheaper (than abroad) and easily available constantly monitored and updated formulas we have here.

womblesofwestminster · 02/04/2014 11:18

A a sleep trainer at 6m, yet formula is poison? She's clearly not as crunchy as she is making out.

TinyTear · 02/04/2014 11:22

I see melon and raw tomatoes as poison to me... Grin

Ignore her, and this coming from a commited breastfeeder, but if it hadn't worked I was ok with formula and when my DD went to nursery at 9/10 months, she did get some formula there in the day...

Fullpleatherjacket · 02/04/2014 11:22

Lord above.

OP - ask her to go to your local primary school and point out the children who were "poisoned" and those who weren't.

That will tell her all she needs to know.

TinyTear · 02/04/2014 11:23

I agree wombles...
I personally don't believe in sleep training as my DD is not a puppy and she started sleeping through when she was ready for it...

Ploppy16 · 02/04/2014 11:26

I once sat through a meal with the OH's of DH's friends, all of whom either had or were BFing. Now I am in the 'feed your baby as you want, when you want, wherever you want' camp but for info I FF mine due to medical issues.
The vitriol directed towards formula feeding was breathtaking. These were old friends, one was a SIL and they knew I had FF'd all of mine. It was child abuse, selfish, unnatural, the full whack. I sat there inhaling sipping my wine, smiling and saying nothing for about 5 minutes until one turned to me with a surprised look on her face and said "oh sorry Ploppy, don't take offence". I just carried on smiling and sipping, saying nothing for a few more minutes and then moved down the table away from them.
They were very quiet for the rest of the meal..
My point is that it's a waste of breath trying to reason with people like this, just like conspiracy theorists they are so convinced that they're right they won't listen.

womblesofwestminster · 02/04/2014 11:30

I think people are perhaps overreacting to the common 'skull and crossbones' perception of poison. Here's the OED definition:

"A substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed"

So I Googled "formula milk illness" and got THIS.

To make the search more academic I went to Google scholar and got THIS.

Badvoc · 02/04/2014 11:33

There no cure for being a Cunt sadly.

autumnsmum · 02/04/2014 11:34

What are you trying to say Wombles that it is poison

Gileswithachainsaw · 02/04/2014 11:41

Formula is a miracle. It saves lives and it prevents pain and suffering.

I am grateful it's so easily available.

autumnsmum · 02/04/2014 11:43

My dd1 was failing to thrive , she was starving I'm so glad formula was avalible

Gileswithachainsaw · 02/04/2014 11:49

Can't believe someone linked to the article that included cesarean deliveries either.

How bloody mean.

autumnsmum · 02/04/2014 11:53

I don't understand the massive anti formula agenda going on here

Megrim · 02/04/2014 11:55

I ff both mine and seem to have completely failed to poison either of them. I haven't even managed to stunt their growth or make them stupid or even give them multiple allergies or chronic illnesses.

elliejjtiny · 02/04/2014 12:06

Hate it when people say things like that.

"I would never use formula/have a C-section/use a buggy after 18 months"

Well, if the alternative is your baby dying or your child doesn't take his first steps until he is nearly 3 then you'll be doing that thing you said you'd never do.

ScrambledSmegs · 02/04/2014 12:10

Ff or bf, who cares? I could go into the whys and wherefores for ages, but as long as the baby is well fed and cared for, it doesn't actually matter. I've exclusively bf, mix-fed and ff my DCs at one point or another and I was a perfectly good mother however they were fed, as is every parent who just tries to do their best.

However, sleep training at 6m? Hmm. Right. I feel bad to admit this, but I so would have judged her for that comment. I know, I know Blush.

Big ol' YANBU from me.

elliejjtiny · 02/04/2014 12:12

Barbarian I'm like that when people talk about having their waters broken to speed up labour. As someone whose waters go before labour starts and causes all sorts of problems, breaking them on purpose sounds like madness to me Grin.

FrancesNiadova · 02/04/2014 12:13

Ha, ha, ha. Poison? I'm the smaller of twins, born in the late 1960's. To put weight on me, my Mum was told to feed me on Carnation Milk, from a tin, which she did. If I got colicky, again she was told to put a tea spoon of brandy into boiled water to soothe my system. Guess what, I'm still here! (Just, admittedly, but still here now!)
I EBF my 1st DC. At 9 1/2 weeks,he was feeding continuously & screaming with colic. I put him onto 5 teaspoons of thin baby rice mixed into formula morning & night. The health visitor went ape-sh*t, but guess what, he settled. He's now 16 & 6ft3".
My youngest, I BF day & night, but before bed in the evening I would give him 2 then 4 oz of formula. He settled straight off & now plays for the school rugby team.
There will always be people usually women who assure you that what you're doing is completely wrong & their way is 100% right. Just smile and nod. NOBODY knows your baby as well as you do. You'd never poison your baby, what a daft thing to say.
Smile and nod. Thanks

MadAsFish · 03/04/2014 07:51

Wombles the first link of the page of stuff you linked to was a study of 25 children. In research terms, this is utterly meaningless (exactly the same as that twat Wakefield's research which caused such damage - 12 children.) Simply nowhere near enough to mean anything at all.

I loathe this anti-formula garbage. The fact remains that while yes, breast may well be best, the real differences are close to undetectable.

TopsyTail · 03/04/2014 07:54

What a thoughtless thing for her to say, especially as she was aware you formula fed you baby.

I'm all for supporting women to breastfeed, but we have to acknowledge there are lots of reason why some can't or choose not to. We are extremely fortunate to have formula and of course it's not poison.

I can understand why you were hurt by her comment OP.

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