AIBU to ask why Christians seem to make everyone so angry?

[Bardette]

Any post involving Christians or the church seem to attract an extra level of venom from some and I wonder why?

Because it is easier to bash Christians than any other faith.

But Christianity (certainly as it is practiced in my C of E church) does not practice homophobia. Individual people may, but that applies to people of any faith or no faith.

But I don't think anyone here has actually said that they hate all Christians at all.

I dislike those Christians who behave in a most unchristian manner towards their fellow man but that doesn't mean I hate anyone. I dislike the hypocrisy. But I dislike that aspect of most religions, not just Christianity.

I also respect other people's right to celebrate and practise their religion, unless by doing so they impact on other people.

Lord, if you think atheists are not closed minded then you're clearly not reading enough Richard Dawkins.

Nevermind that other faith groups have some similar views to ome Christians. Or that as Christians they vary in opinion, values and the way they live their life. Its just easier to lump all Christians together and make lazy assumptions.

Some of them are angry at specific Christians and take it out on all Christians instead of giving out to Aunt Mabel or Fr. Brikowski or whichever Christian pissed them off in the first place. Some are angry about school admissions. And some are just angry, intolerant people who have found that MN will allow them to direct that anger towards believers.

Eek, close minded is not something if associate with atheists, more with the religious HTH

Oh, I don't know. I've met a good few militant, dogmatic atheist bores in my time. It's not enough for them to dismiss the existence of the "sky fairy" - they won't be satisfied until the rest of the world does too.

There are aspects of all religions that I dislike greatly. I just feel better positioned to comment on the faith I was brought up in, Christianity or more specifically, Catholicism.

I couldn't agree more. It's embarrassing that the C of E's official position is so homophobic, when there are so many gay people who are vicars or are in the congregation, just like in any other part of life.

In my opinion Christians should be very concerned that she's speaking on their behalf.

^ We are

I was glad they also interviewed a gay vicar on the BBC news as well to counteract what she said.

some christians are the salt of the earth - some are vile people, and "Christian" only in name. Likewise some atheists are thoroughly lovely compassionate warm people, while some are absolute shits. same with ANY category of people you care to name. I think christians have become a sort of scape goat - its not PC to bash gays or ethnic minorities or ginger haired people but hey, give the christians a good slagging off, because some of them hold outdated views or belong to churches who have covered up abuse etc.

Lol pumpkin! Just like the missionaries spreading Christian 'truths' throughout Africa

I know a lot of closed minded atheists. They are just as likely to insist they're right, and won't give consideration to others opinions.

It's not close minded, I just believe the burden of proof lands at the feet of the believer...show me the evidence and I'll more than happily change my opinion. I'm open minded like that

PiratePanda/pumpkinpositive : I totally agree... as an atheist evolutionary biologist who occasionally goes to church because i feel I need reminding of how I"m meant to behave.

Can't stand bloody Dawkins and am offended he speaks on my behalf.

Lol pumpkin! Just like the missionaries spreading Christian 'truths' throughout Africa

Two sides of the same coin. They're all nowt but colonialists of the mind.

(I'd like to claim credit for that phrase but it was Iain Banks)

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I think I'd prefer welcomed immigrants of the T.H. Huxley kind...

Christians are a privileged group in the UK, eg schools, house of lords seats, etc.

The church throughout history has slagged off disapproved of many other groups eg gays, unmarried mothers.

I think that could be why.

Also, I think large section (the majority?) of society are atheist and it's rather annoying that superstition still holds sway over education and lawmaking, and that the superstitious get to opt out of certain laws.

Why isnt there cry for some sectors of other faiths to change their views. Such as Islam, Judaism, Sikhism. There was a story in the papers just this week of a asian muslim man who married someone ans when she threatened to tell his family that he was in fact gay. He proceeded to murder her. Where is the outcry there. Doe that mean that all Asian people are homophobic etc. In my view no, but do you see the hypocrisy.

It's not Christians who make everyone pissed off I reckon.

It's Christians like my parents who a bigoted arseholes but still can't resist shoving their smuggery down other peoples throats.

I may need to have this post deleted but boy does it feel good to let that out.

Pumpkinpositive what about the White Europeans who were just plain colonists

Rhondajean or maybe your parents as you say are just bigoted there are bigots everywhere not just some Christians.

Absolutely HairyGrotter. I'm right with you. Show me the evidence - I've looked, I can assure you - but either I'm not searching in the right place, or there is nothing to find. I do know that there is a massive link between people 'feeling the presence of God' and schizophrenia. Google it. You'll see what I mean - I know this because a good friend is schizophrenic and described to me how it felt for him, and it did indeed feel as though a loving and wonderful god was with him. I also remember watching the news about little Jamie Bulger and then hearing someone else say that God must have been watching over them that day because the £20 they needed for their electric had turned up in the pocket of a pair of trousers. Really? Did God really busy him/herself with putting 20 quid into their pocket while little Jamie Bulger lay dying? Really?

Anyway - I digress. The reason people bash Christians in this country rather than other religions is because we're not sure what reaction we might get if we question other religions which have a majority in other cultures. Dh is Muslim, from somewhere East of here. Over there, they question each other just as we do here. But I would not feel I had the right, but I do feel I have the right here in the country I was brought up in and with the religion I was offered, so to speak.

Hakuna, it's the opting out of discrimination laws imo, rather than the views themselves.

Bigoted, backward people are on the wrong side of history and do themselves and their religions no favours airing these views.

Where's all the religions in the UK from before Christianity? Was Christianity kind and forgiving towards them? Kind of in the rulebook that you can't believe in any God but a Christian God, if my memory serves me correctly? I like Christians, but I don't like Christianity much. I feel like it comes from too prejudiced a past and it hasn't moved along with the world at hand.

I'd love to be convinced otherwise of course, because I want to believe in something, but Christianity has been so unfriendly towards people sometimes, I don't know if I can. Jesus sounded fairly nice, God sounds a bit like a demanding and difficult father, and I've had one of those already, don't want another one beating me down making me feel bad for what I am.

Exactly what whoslooking said. We are entitled to slag off the establishment imo. Also hate that all atheists are considered Dawkins adherents. We're not! He's not our Jesus you know!