To serve kosher meat just to spite them?

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I think I might be being a tad silly but..

A few of DH's work collegues are coming over for sunday dinner (with their families) tomorrow. We did all the making sure about veggies and allergies and all that.
I got a text from one of them saying that they were looking forward to coming and all that and they added on the end that could we not serve any kosher meat tomorrow as they dont agree with it.
Both me and DH dont keep kosher, at all, never have.

For some reason the text really pissed me off, and I really want to go and buy different meat that is all kosher.

I'm being ridiculous aren't I?

Caitlin don't you see that the guest didn't specify free range organic like you would they only said no kosher. Can you not see the difference? They only care about the kosher part.

So it's ok for animals to live on suffering but we must kill them in a certain way? All the methods of killing do just that kill an animal for no reason. Kosher, halal or not they all kill very quickly.

OP YANBU

It is reasonable to not want to eat kosher meat. It is not reasonable to expect a household who keep kosher to serve you non-kosher meat. It is even more unreasonable to suggest that it can't be served in your presence (if that was their intent - might just have been badly worded). It is outrageously unreasonable to do this 24hrs before a largish dinner party when the host asked for requirements weeks in advance.

I only eat organic and free-range meat at home. I would not ask my friend who earns less than half my salary to ensure she served free range / organic. That would be appallingly rude - the animal was still killed for my preference to eat meat after all (and she's probably pushing the boat out a bit for her guests as it is, so that would smack of saying 'not good enough').

I also think some of the comparisons upthread are unfair. Catering for a vegetarian or vegan doesn't need to be difficult and I've been to many a dinner where the 'veggie dishes' were not sufficient to feed someone, so I don't think it's right that veggies / vegans should just snarf all the sides (I love vegetables and I'd quite like some too!). I'm a meat eater and I even eat veal...but in my younger days (skint) I had a largish dinner party with a veggie who didn't eat numerous vegetables, a vegan, someone who was allergic to seafood and two people with severe nut allergies - I cooked 90% vegan (few vegetarian dips and one nibble including chicken). As a meat eater & a good cook I wasn't offended by my food, so why should any of my guests be?

You can rely on this sort of thread to bring out the "so PC I must respect the rights of all minorities at the expense of denying those same rights to non-minorities" types.

picasso87 I wish I could like you post.

Nobody said that box. It's perfectly possible to care about animals welfare whilst they are alive and also to want them to be killed as humanely impossible. They're not exclusive and you are clutching at straws.

I'm somewhat confused by your post, Picasso. No "rights" have been mentioned here at all, just preferences and good manners. And what slight have the majority endured to give these "rights" to the minority?

Sorry - have been out all day.
(And to those who were confused - yes we are Jewish)

Thanks - and I didnt go out and buy new meat.

Very very rude. Halal, kosher, packed into a factory and half stunned before their feathers are plucked out............the fact is an animal is killed and then chopped up and sold to hamans for consumption.

If you don't like that fucking become a vegetarian!

You are Jewish? Well they are fucking out of order!

No Caitlin - saying kosher/ halal is cruel when the alternative is just as bad is out of order.

Kosher/halal meat can adhere to higher welfare meat as you call it - just as much as non halal/kosher can.

Does that make sense??!?!

My house my rules, I would not ask/indulge any preferences, I would cook what I like and befitting the occasion, probably would have something in the fridge for the veggies, if you generally don't keep kosher, it would be spiteful, offensive and unnecessary expensive to purchase kosher meat.
As a matter of preference I would not cook pork, because we do not eat any.

BTW if I was a practising Jew and keeping kosher kitchen, kosher meat would be on the menu and I am afraid kosher meat they would get, I would not bring non kosher meat for anyone in.

Sorry corus yes I did mean you.

No I meant the distinction between kosher/halal/ non kosher etc..........

Just because an animal is killed in a non-kosher way doesn't mean it had a better life or was 'killed' in a better way....

I'm not clutching at straws. Kosher is not more cruel to the animal. I'm confused why anyone thinks it is. Don't eat meat, that is what harms animals.

itsbetter John Blackwell, head of the British Veterinary Association and the Danish government would be disagreeing with you.

OP YANBU

I used to work on the line in an abboitoir as a meat inspector, I think its kinder to animals to stun them first. I rather not eat kosher meat but will do so in restaurants or in other people's houses.

The RSPCA is opposed to slaughtering animals without stunning them first.

I also don't eat veal although it's much more humane than it used to be. I try to eat meat that is locally raised and slaughtered as I believe transporting animals long distances is incredibly cruel. INFO HERE How anyone can think its ok to transport animals across Euroupe is beyond me.

I think they are rude. I bet they will turn out not to be very nice company, they are probably 'preachy' and very opinionated.

YANBU to feel that way, I'd be very annoyed too, especially at short notice.

itsbetterinabox are you Jewish? aermingus is and has not supported any of your assertions and has actually said she would not eat Kosher meat because of the method of slaughter involved.

I don't buy or eat any meat which is not free range; I don't eat any meat in a restaurant unless its provenance is clearly stated to be locally produced and free produced; I don't eat farmed salmon; I would not eat meat which has been slaughtered in a Kosher manner. I don't care if that offends someone's religious sensibilities because sticking a tag of "it's my religion" on a bad thing doesn't make it a good thing.

As for whether Kosher slaughter is cruel I think the head of the British veterinary association and the RSPCA might know more about it than you.

Without getting into the debate on animal welfare, I think the text was extremely rude. If you accept an invitation to dinner (and allergies, intolerances, vegetarian etc have been dealt with) then you eat what is put in front of you. You don't ask which farm it grew up on or how it reached your plate.

Like Mom I would be annoyed at the tone and short notice. I would not be inviting them again.