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To serve kosher meat just to spite them?

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flaquark · 29/03/2014 11:52

I think I might be being a tad silly but..

A few of DH's work collegues are coming over for sunday dinner (with their families) tomorrow. We did all the making sure about veggies and allergies and all that.
I got a text from one of them saying that they were looking forward to coming and all that and they added on the end that could we not serve any kosher meat tomorrow as they dont agree with it.
Both me and DH dont keep kosher, at all, never have.

For some reason the text really pissed me off, and I really want to go and buy different meat that is all kosher.

I'm being ridiculous aren't I?

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itsbetterthanabox · 29/03/2014 13:42

Vegetarians shouldn't have to eat or cook meat. Meat eaters don't need meat with every meal.

PigletUnrepentant · 29/03/2014 13:42

JGKO, I think you have point there.

Consideration goes both ways.

starfishmummy · 29/03/2014 13:44

Just put vegetables on their plate. (I don't mean a vegetarian dish, just the "sides"). They are very rude to make this demand at the last minute.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 13:45

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PigletUnrepentant · 29/03/2014 14:09

Corus, If a Jewish friend is going to serve kosher meat it is not fair to demand non kosher meat, you can always gracefully decline the invitation on any excuse. Her beliefs and yours are equally important.

NigellasDealer · 29/03/2014 14:11

yes but if someone really kept kosher then there would not be an option of 'non kosher' would there? so it is pretty ignorant request on several levels.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:17

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NigellasDealer · 29/03/2014 14:18

a Jewish guest who kept strict kosher would not even accept an invitation to eat in a gentile household.
also, kosher is not just meat.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:20

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NigellasDealer · 29/03/2014 14:22

well quite .....

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:22

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Caitlin17 · 29/03/2014 14:26

SolomonDaisy You said"And anyone who avoids kosher and halal for animal welfare reasons should also be only eating free range, highest welfare standards."

Yes actually I do. And I would not source kosher or halal meat for guests. If they required that then there would be no meat and only fish or vegetarian options.

It is ridiculous to make this into a racist issue.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:31

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specialsubject · 29/03/2014 14:42

how very entitled, ignorant and quite possibly offensive.

the objection is presumably to the slaughter without stunning - which is of course the same for a lot of halal meat. The jury is out on whether this is more or less humane than eating an animal that has been shot in the head or electrocuted first.

also; much meat slaughtered by Jewish methods goes into the 'main' food supply, as the processes allowing Jews to eat the back half of the animal are uneconomic in the UK and have been for many years. So your 'friend' needs to eat no meat at all to be sure of their position.

OP - in your position I would withdraw the invitation and invite people who are able to make coherent arguments. And who don't tell you what to serve in your own house. If they had said 'no meat for us please' that would have been acceptable.

The fact that halal was also not mentioned makes me think that this is more than about animal welfare.

BTW I eat meat. Which means animals get killed.Welcome to real life.

Iggi101 · 29/03/2014 14:45

They should have said it at the time you asked re allergies etc. Has one of them only just realised you are Jewish though? I agree it is an implied insult of your religion tbh. I don't eat meat, but I would simply tell hosts I'm veggie, I have never added "I don't agree with eating meat" or suggested they should not have meat themselves. Because I am not rude.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:46

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Caitlin17 · 29/03/2014 14:48

specialsubject taking it OP is Jewish as she said they never do Kosher. If she is why on earth should the guest have said no Kosher or halal? Why would a Jewish family be serving halal? If anything is racist it's your comment lumping the 2 together.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:48

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RalphRecklessCardew · 29/03/2014 14:50

They sound awful.

Caitlin17 · 29/03/2014 14:52

igg why is it an insult to the OP's religion?
We're straying off topic but just because any practice or belief is someone's religion doesn't stop it also being weird/offensive/unacceptable to others.

CorusKate · 29/03/2014 14:59

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ValentineWiggins · 29/03/2014 15:00

Personally I would be asking them for their proof that kosher killing is worse than dipping chickens into electrified water potentially multiple times, being stunned several times because the first didn't work or being gassed.

Kosher rules were designed specifically to minimise the pain to the animal - hence very very specific rules about the sharpness of the blade and the placement of the cut.

And a huge proportion of meat in this country is halal slaughtered (far more than kosher...) and most of it is unmarked.

saffstel · 29/03/2014 15:00

Rude people. YANBU

specialsubject · 29/03/2014 15:02

the Op may, or may not be Jewish. If they are, and the guest knows it, then to say 'don't serve me kosher meat' is unbelievable.

Why would a Jewish family be serving halal? If anything is racist it's your comment lumping the 2 together.

WTF???? This is also unbelievable.

brokenhearted55a · 29/03/2014 15:05

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