To serve kosher meat just to spite them?

[flaquark]

I think I might be being a tad silly but..

A few of DH's work collegues are coming over for sunday dinner (with their families) tomorrow. We did all the making sure about veggies and allergies and all that.
I got a text from one of them saying that they were looking forward to coming and all that and they added on the end that could we not serve any kosher meat tomorrow as they dont agree with it.
Both me and DH dont keep kosher, at all, never have.

For some reason the text really pissed me off, and I really want to go and buy different meat that is all kosher.

I'm being ridiculous aren't I?

If the guests thought the op only ate kosher, then that is very rude to expect her to cook non kosher meat.

I agree op. People who care about halal and kosher are just racist. I'd serve vegetarian food.

I think you are being unreasonable. You are seeing this as a 'racist' issue and not an animal welfare issue. I still don't eat veal (even though I understand it's much more humane than it used to be)

It's 'reasonable' not to want to eat kosher meat because you think its cruel for the animals not to be stunned before their throats are slit. I am not saying its right or wrong just that it is a reasonable opinion to hold just as other people wouldn't eat horse or rabbit.

I think the fact you asked about their eating preferences would have encouraged them to mention that they don't like eating kosher meat.

Unfortunately, it is not a requirement to label meat that has come from animals that have not been stunned (kosher and some halal) so your dinner party guests have most likely already eaten plenty of it.

Lots of people including the RSPCA want meat to be labelled properly.

I'm vegetarian, but when I'm invited somewhere, I wouldn't dream of asking the hosts not to serve any meat to the rest of their guests.

But would you expect them to serve you a dish containing meat or Amal products?

Thatothertime. It clearly is racist issue. If they cared about animal welfare they would have asked where the meat is from or how it is killed all they have stated is no kosher. The op could buy non kosher but extremely cheap meat but they don't have an issue with that.
If you care about animals welfare don't kill animals! Don't eat meat.

People who care about halal and kosher are just racist.

How on earth did you arrive at that conclusion? You are joking, right??

I find it hilarious that any meat eater (myself included) would climb up onto their high horse about how their steak was slaughtered.

Even if it's non-kosher/halal, it hasn't been gently cuddled and petted to death. I understand preferring organic or free range, but to express a moral view on whether it's throat was slit or it had a captive bolt shot into it's head seems to be splitting hairs somewhat.

Obviously it was rude of the guests to mention this so late in the day.

It would be silly to actually go and but kosher meat to piss them off

It would be perfectly reasonable to TELL it kosher and offer them veggie.

After all it's far too short notice to go to the shop

I find it hilarious that any meat eater (myself included) would climb up onto their high horse about how their steak was slaughtered.

Really. Personally I would prefer that any animal was killed as quickly and painlessly as possible. There is no need for them to suffer, say, a slow and painful death by whatever means. Just because I have no problem eaten an animal that has been specifically bred and raised to be eaten doesn't mean I want it to suffer.

This isn't a comment about halal/kosher, just a general comment.

it would be v rude to ask/expect a jewish family to prepare non-kosher, or a muslim family to prepare non-halal. you could get round the issue by asking for veggie food instead, as, tbh all my muslim friends usually do when i ask them over for tea. actually i am fine sourcing/serving halal but they never expect me to as that is rude.

The fact your guests said they didn't eat kosher but didn't mention halal might give even more weight to the argument that they are concerned with animal welfare and not racism as kosher meat is not going to be stunned whereas most of UK halal meat is stunned.

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OP I find that bloody rude. I'd go out of my way to find some kosher meat and work it into a side dish. Or I might be tempted to say I'd already picked out the lamb for slaughter and needed more notice.

I have decided recently to only buy meat that has been locally farmed (and slaughtered) for the benefit of the animals (less stress), carbon footprint, sustainability and supporting local buisiness. I wouldn't tell any hosts to do the same and wouldn't even mention it unless asked.

I used to live in a village where there were so many people with restricted diets we all had to pick and choise who to invite for a meal together or be prepared for a lotof extra work. It was still not good enough for some peiple.

flaquark you are not being ridiculous, that message was bloody rude from someone who has accepted an invitation to eat in your house.
in your shoes, I would now buy kosher or halal.

I think they are being unreasonable in asking you not to serve kosher meat; I wouldn't have them over again.

My DH is a very picky eater (due to preferences rather than beliefs). If we're invited anywhere to eat then he just sucks up the fact that he might be able to eat only a little bit of what's on offer. He would never expect anything special to be cooked for him, he just accepts the menu the hosts have provided.

IMO, the only thing you can be controlling about when visiting someone else's house is allergies that could cause a real issue - eg if the hosts cooked a nut roast for someone with nut allergies and as a result the person couldn't eat any of the food for fear of cross-contamination. Beyond that I think anything else is extremely rude. That said, I would expect good hosts to be aware of things like vegetarianism and religious beliefs and provide extras to the main meal to suit those things if necessary. For the guests to demand it though is really not on. Someone hosting a dinner is providing a great honour for their guests and for someone to shit all over that by whinging about particulars is just nasty.

Perhaps they should have put that if the meat was kosher they wouldn't want any rather than it shouldn't be served at all?

If there are vegetarians at a dinner, does no one eat meat for example?

On a related note, I was having friends to stay and I did the "good host" thing of asking if they really didn't like any foods or had any allergies to which I was told no, and therefore we planned a dinner with a lot of cheese and cream involved. When the friends arrived the man jovially told us how he had cut out all dairy. FFS. No apology for not telling us, and a definite expectation that we would change our menu to suit his very recent and non-essential decision. RUDE.

I think it is rude. Are you Jewish? If not, why didn't they mention halal? And anyone who avoids kosher and halal for animal welfare reasons should also be only eating free range, highest welfare standards. If they don't, then they do rather prompt the suspicion that they may be racist twats rather than animals rights promoters.

I understand why you are angry, you are inviting them for diner, this is not a restaurant. If they are so concerned about how their dinner met their end, they should eat the vegetarian things available and shut their mouth, rather than burdening the host with their own ideologies.

I have no problem with cooking for people who are vegetarians, or have food allergies but I don't want to complicate my life so much to keep everyone happy, unless I care enough for them to go through such specific demands.

Look into how animals are kept and killed kosher or not. It's all cruel and unnecessary. Ask them why they don't eat kosher, if they claim cruelty then serve veggie food.

Just make sure when you have the return date at the Veggie Residence you let them know how you like your steaks cooked.