To think she is so bloody ungrateful!!

[hickorychicken]

And lives in a different world....
Someone I know got offered a gorgeous 3 bedroom house with a massive garden etc and all sje has done is whinge! She was given a £200 decorating grant but all she keeps saying is "Oh well its not like im getting any help, i mean i need help with carpets, i cant live like this im not having it!"


I pointed out that i lived witg one room done for 2 YEARS. Its gotten me irrationally angry! I think im going to get a flaming but meh, some people want everything handed to them on a plate.

People forget that you RENT council houses.

And that if life has worked well for you, you get to buy a large asset.

Ah sorry, I must have misunderstood your post.

whatwhatinthewhatnow I am already doing a part-time degree. I am not just complaining. I have also paid actual up-front money as a mature student, to do GCSEs and A-levels afresh, in order to do that.

And yes, lots of 18 year olds don't get rescued at all. My sixteen-year-old self would have envied my 18-year-old self. I remember that. I'm just kind of thinking that the support should be extended, and that all teenagers in abusive situations should be rescued, y'know. Instead of limited and further contracted. As it has been. And that people who evidently weren't homeless (see up thread) should not be whinging about grants being given to men, women and children in need.

George Osbourne, son of a Baronet

I am in social housing, and nowhere in the OP's post have I seen her having a problem with social housing, just a problem with one very ungrateful friend.

Whoa, Tilly, no need to go off at me. I'm very sorry you had what was clearly a dreadful time. I wasn't referring to you or your situation when I said things rankled with me. I was referring to two individuals in different circumstances from you. Plus I also explained that I feel differently now. That's all. Please don't make me the focus of your anger against the world in general,

I am very glad that people get council houses. I have no problem with it at all and I think we should build more social housing to give people secure tenancies, allow them to develop their career in the area where they live, have settled schooling for their families.

And having seen my friend's house (DD1 and I helped her move) I can categorically state that there was nothing in that house - bare boards, bare walls, everything needed putting in. The grant my friend got came nowhere near covering it although she squeezed every penny of it until it screamed used it very, very well indeed.

She would be at OP's 'friend'.

I don't see Tilly taking out any "anger against the world in general".

She just called you out on the common practice of not even noticing the things you've been given (uni education), while being jealous of people who have something different.

That was your younger self, of course. But so many of us do it, so much of the time.

I try to remember this.

I apologise for any offence I have caused. I will remember in future to be grateful for all that I have and all the many advantages life has bestowed on me.
Right, out of here. Lesson learned! Not even going to OPEN anything like this ever again!

normalishdude did you perchance have a job while renting this room? And access to a joint cooker, washing machine etc?

VodkaJelly Unfortunately, the OP isn't the only one on this thread. Other people on this thread are definitely resenting social housing. We have

Evie2014 there was absolutely no evidence in your post that you had changed. You did not say "to see others seemingly getting freebies" or anything remotely similar. If you have since learnt to recognise your privileges over the course of your life, I am absolutely delighted for you/

However, your post, like many others on MN, was that of someone who thought of having had a university education as something more analogous to performing voluntary community service for the good of society, or volunteering for a charity, rather than something from which you personally derived benefit.

I'm not making you " the focus of [my] anger against the world" and as a personal piece of advice, I'd suggest you don't try that line on anyone again. It's only one step up from "are you hormonal" as a put-down.

Feminine...many, many houses/flats in the private sector are in a terrible state as well.

And the responsibility for maintaining these is... the landlord's.

I'm not sure "private landlords fail in their duties to tenants, so social landlords should too" is a particularly strong argument.

Partialfancy...what about people who own their own home...if they can't afford to update/repair their home, its tough luck.

But you are paying much more in the private sector with less security.

Er, that'll be because it's your own asset you're maintaining.

You are also not paying someone every month for the service of "providing a fit habitation in good decorative order". (If you have a mortgage, you are paying for the service of "lending money to spend how I like as long as I keep up the payments").

babe, if you think owning property makes you hard done by, sell it and rent instead.

There are swings and roundabouts with each. Yer pays yer money and yer takes your choice.

(That's for those with access to money, of course. Those without don't get a choice.)

(Ironically, between the last two posts I had to pop outside to talk to the roofer, after the latest round of problems with the chimneys and flashing. Paid for by DP, of course.)

"Why should council house tenants be any more grateful for a roof over their head than any other tenants, or owner occupiers?"

I don't believe I have said they should be any more grateful for a roof over their heads, Artex.

Nor have I said it is acceptable for people to live in houses in a bad state of repair, or that I resent people or any 'wah wah wah how terrible them getting it for free when hardworking people have to pay for stuff' shit that you want to put into my mouth, or that I resent people who get social housing.

ALL I have said is that the OP's friend sounds very ungrateful - and if she were being given a mansion and £10k decorating money by her parents, and were complaining as described, I would think she was being bloody ungrateful.

It may surprise you to learn that not everyone is a benefits basher, and there are, in fact, plenty of us who believe passionately in the benefits system, and are proud to live in a society that looks after people who need it. But it is perfectly possible to believe passionately in the benefits system and still expect decent manners from everyone - and that does include being grateful when given something, no matter who you are, who is giving you stuff, and what it is you are being given. What is wrong with that?

I'm just mentioning the fact that social housing tenants are not the only ones who have to live in less than ideal homes.

Then you are entitled Artex.
Given a home and money to decorate how you like, low rent and security but still want more instead of seeing the positive of wow new home new start etc.

I never said she was a friend and her kids are 23 and 26.

Exactly Artex by using our decorating vouchers, we are improving the house for the HA/council.

Plus, they have standards that they sometimes decide to uphold.

I feel very luck to have this home though- really :)