To think that P&C spaces in supermarket car parks

[Braganza]

AIBU to think that where there is a pedestrian pavement down the middle of a supermarket car park, it would make far more sense to have the parent and child parking in a well lit area further away from the entrance. This would mean that the spaces would not get clogged up by drivers without children too lazy to find a space, and in some car parks could be in an area with less traffic.

But that does happen Boney, people without children park in them all the time.

I can't always walk far (I have a neurological disability) and have a blue badge. This allows me to use p&c spaces (though my children are all over 10 now) if there aren't any disabled spaces.

What it doesn't do is allow anyone with or often without a car seat to park in the blue badge places.

I'm happy to keep the p&c places as it usually keeps the feckers out of the space I need to negotiate with my stick/crutches or unload the wheelchair.

I know curious I used to have them

My GPs doesn't even have a car park so you have to park in the Pay and Display.

There are so many disabled spaces, I've never seen them full!!

So Sparkling, I don't see your issue with people wanting P&C spaces? Why does it cause such an uproar when people clearly know why they're wanted.

I have no issue I said if one's free and you need it, use it-great. If there isn't well never mind-park elsewhere. They are a bonus that's all, something that is nice to have.

curiousgeorgie

I object to the inference that all these people are lazy.
1/ P & C places are ( as has been said many many times) a courtesy
2/ As someone who has had an accident and has a knee doesn't always work as it should when I am in pain and as I (quite rightly) do not have a blue badge, when I have to use sticks I will park in the P & C places. So I object to being called lazy.

If you don't have a blue badge, and you don't have children, I don't think you should be parking in P&C spaces.

I tore a ligament in my ankle and didn't have my children with me, can I park there?

Do you know it carries a £60 fine if someone catches you, in Sainsbury's for example?

Pfft a chance would be a fine thing, they have replaced the original P&C spaces at our local supermarket with double the number of disabled spaces, and created new P&C spaces what seems like half a bloody mile away. TBH I think being on the sick might gradually be taking over as the new local industry, so it's no surprise. smile

Oh dear me, might you have to walk and get your pwecious baybee all wet and everything?

So pleased your supermarket have been helpful enough to give disabled people the spaces they need in the place convenient for them. It's very kind of them as well to put PandC spaces in at all, what a forward thinking and customer friendly supermarket. As for your comment about being on the sick, I won't qualify that with any response apart from

At mine the p&c spaces are closer than the disabled spaces i dont know why.
I never used to bother with p&c spaces until the day i was getting my child in to his seat in the back of my 3 door car, the wind caught my door and flung it open, leaving an ugly mark on the car next to me!
Now i park either in the p&c spaces or at the far end of the car park, i'd be happy if the p&c spaces were there too

curiousgeorgie

Again it is a courtesy, and as far as I am aware the fine would be not be enforceable. But If you are happy to see people on crutches hobble across the car park then so be it.

In my local Sainsbury's, the fine is enforceable, I know this because I helped someone get one, who was childless and parked there anyway.

But Boney, you don't have a blue badge, so why do you feel entitled to park wherever you like??

Boney if I were you I would do the same TBH.

Plus who are all these sticky beaks that like to log who parks in what space? Just get on with what you have to do and go home.

So if I twisted my ankle could I park wherever I like then? With your full support?

How do you know that they paid?
If its on private land they would have to prove loss of income to have the fine paid.

You may have "helped" someone get a ticket but unless they paid it on the stop (illegal to make someone do so) you just don't know.

Boney is on crutches because of an accident. She can't have a Blue Badge but you would have to have a heart of stone to confront her for parking in a P&C space then setting off on crutches into the shop.

My son doesn't have a blue badge but we will continue to use p and c spaces for as long as they useful. There are plenty of disabled people who don't have a blue badge.

She's not entitled to a blue badge, so why does she feel entitled to park anywhere regardless?

By that reasoning, I've got a cold, I need to park nearer the shop.

I'm late for school pick up, I need to skip the queue.

I haven't earned as much this week, I need to pay less.

The rules are the rules to keep things fair. If you make exceptions for someone with a bad knee ( who doesn't have a blue badge) then what about people with cancer? People who didn't get a good nights sleep and are tired? Someone who is stressed out?

Jesus.

Blimey curious you are all heart. Because having a cold is exactly the same as being on crutches isn't it?

I am sure many people with Cancer have a Blue Badge and some don't but could do with one.

Jesus

Placing them at the far end of the car park with a walkway is a brilliant idea. I often remark on this.

Laughing at everyone that suggests people should buy different cars just to make parking/shopping easier. Of course we all have bottomless pits of money to spend on cars

My mum has said herself that whilst there were no p&c spaces when she had children there were also no car seat laws. I used to travel around in her arms. Just because something didnt exist years ago doesn't mean we shouldn't have them now.

I have been in the situation before where I have come out of the supermarket having parked in a normal space due to a lack of p&c ones, to find cars parked very close either side of me. My daughter was 2 months old in a car seat and I was shopping alone. To get her in the car I had to put the seat in the boot with her in it, squeeze myself in to the drivers seat and reverse out before properly strapping her in. Im just thankful that I didnt have a saloon car with enclosed boot!

Sparkling - I was generalising about exceptions, as you well know.

And yes, if I saw someone in P&C with no children, I would report them.

Coincidentally, my DD has hypermobility syndrome as I said up thread, so suddenly I am entitled to park where I like right??

Or does it only apply to people with bad knees?

Why do people care so much about P&C spaces?
It has to be one of the most ridiculous 'problems' and it gets so many people so annoyed.

I think people can make choices about where to park based on their unique situations. It is nobody else's business.

I wouldn't dream of reporting anybody for anything-I don't know what is going on their lives and it's none of my business anyway.

I certainly don't patrol P&C spaces. Why would you? Park up, dash in do your shopping, dash out. Go home.