To feel mortified that this was not picked up on... WARNING HORRIFIC PICTURES

[diaimchlo]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085222/Kimberley-Hainey-House-horror-baby-son-died.html

Another poor defenseless child suffering at the hands of the one person they should be able to trust to safeguard their well-being.

R.I.P little angel.

Yes it can happen but in cases like this, she will never look after another child again.

No men too cause their just as bad!!

I know they can't hold them down and do it, but a law should be brought into action! Something does have to be done it's not fair on these wee babies/kids suffering due to addiction!

What though? The only thing that can be done is that social work involvement becomes stricter.

The verdict was overturned. She didn't murder the child.

If anybody is to blame, social services are.

As for you Weelady your attitude disgusts me. How do you know her history? Do you know what drives people to drug addiction? Do you care?
Redundant question, I'm sure.

I wish I had the answer to that I really do, I worked in social work for a couple of years I had to leave it was heartbreaking and social work just don't have the staff to support all these families!

I know people who have been on drugs and they have battled their addiction for their kids sake and became brilliant parents

Then I know people who have been on drugs and are selfish bastards who only think about their next bag of smack not where the next meal is coming from for the kids!

You worked in social work!? Dear god.

God, something went so badly wrong in that house.

Look at the picture of the wardrobe. Of the lovely toys and nice curtains in the window. She wanted that baby, planned for him and made things nice. Such a tragedy that it all went so wrong and she wasn't offered or able to access help and intervention that might have saved him and turned things round for her.

Dawn have you ever looked after a drug addicted baby?? Or have you ever had to look after a child who has found their mummy with a fucking needle sticking out their arm and thought mummy was dead or have you ever had to witness a child having to go through a fucking degrading internal cause mummy and daddy's friends were doing bad things!!! Do you want me to go fucking on???

You left social work you say, Weelady?

Thank fuck for that.

Weelady, drop it. I completely understand every single scenario you have just listed, and I still think YABU.

Welsh you know fuck all probably sitting in your big fancy house with your perfect life!! Try living in the real world!!

And you think they should still be able to have kids!!!!

If anybody is to blame, social services are.

How? (Genuine question)

Indeed. There's a type of person social work doesn't need.

Weelady does it ever enter your narrow little mind that some of us may well have had that experience, first hand.

Plenty of children have come through it, grown up to be funtioning adults, and post here.

You have absolutely no idea about my circumstances, Weelady.

As it happens I live in a 2 bed terrace in one of the rougher towns in the UK, I was raised by a CP social worker, I work in domestic abuse services (with lots of drug users) and I've applied to do a social work degree.

I hope I don't ever end up as judgemental as you.

Yes. Just because some go through abuse doesn't mean they all will, just as kids born to non-addicts are abused all the time. You can't tar everyone with the same brush.

PLEASE be dignified and stop screeching at other like harridans. An innocent child has died. Have some respect.

Why the fuck has this 2 year old story been brought up again, and some of the ghoulish comments are just .
I honestly think people enjoy threads like this just to show how shocked and horrified they are like some kind of voyeurs.

Can I just add a point to this thread?

Whilst what happened to that poor baby was beyond disgusting, we don't know for sure what went on.

I followed the story at the time and from what I can remember the mother was a drug user, she didn't murder her son but his death was probably caused by neglect, the house fell into squalor after the baby died as she couldn't cope with what had happened/she'd done.

If you look closely at the photos you can see that it was probably once a nice house.

It is awful when a child isn't safe and protected by their own mother, however I think public services and the wider community also have some responsibility to notice when someone isn't coping.

And yes, have you been that child personally? Because there are plenty of kids born into the circumstances you list who would be fucking hurt and offended that you believe they should never have had the chance to live.

Mintyy You're right, I'm going to stop now.

weelady - I'm sure you know who else promoted eugenics right?

I cannot actually believe someone who states they have been a social worker is promoting forced sterilisation as a tool to control people.

Looking at a situation, as described in a news report, and thinking that you know everything about and can opine on a solution to that and all such crimes is really, really silly.

Awful things happen to children in this country and across the world every single day. The cause of those things are many and complex. There is no simple solution and advocating one only makes you appear ignorant.