To feel mortified that this was not picked up on... WARNING HORRIFIC PICTURES

[diaimchlo]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085222/Kimberley-Hainey-House-horror-baby-son-died.html

Another poor defenseless child suffering at the hands of the one person they should be able to trust to safeguard their well-being.

R.I.P little angel.

Goodness me

Dusty junkies who can't look after their baby's due to being out their heads on drugs!!

People in the grip of an addiction to alcohol/drugs that renders them unable to function in society, unable to care for themselves or others, are certainly ill, in my opinion.

WeeLady Do fuck off, how do you think someone born to drug addicts would feel reading that you think they should never have been allowed to exist?

Like shit, I can tell you that.

And I agree with Everlong that it's no excuse.

To me it's self inflicted!!

And good on the ones who have helped themselves

Do we know if the flat was is that state when the child died?

Has drugs ever affected your family???

Only on MN would completely disgusting crimes against innocent children some how be twisted to make the perpetrater a victim.

The only victim was that poor baby. There must have been a time at some age was at a drs or the baby was at te drs and she could have said something, anything to get help for her or her baby.

It definitely isn't an excuse. An excuse that she killed her child? She's a vile person, should never be allowed to have a child again.

Bad people do bad things, people who are not addicts or ill kill or abuse children every day.

Should everyone be sterilised just in case?

Addiction may be self inflicted (although that's arguable in some cases as many turn to it young as they themselves have experienced abuse) but that doesn't stop the people born to them feeling pretty worthless when thoughtless idiots start spouting about how their parents should have been sterislised.

I asked has drugs ever affected your family??

Dear God

a woman that can throw rubbish on top of her dead child and continue to draw the childs benefit (from what i can remember) is not ill,selfish,manipulative,and many more words yes

Actually it has. I once started a thread on here on the subject of people talking about how "they should all be sterilised" on addiction threads.

There is no excuse for what happened to that child, not drugs or illness but commenting on every single addict as if this is the situation with all is ridiculous.

Just terrifies me the thought she may create another little life.
As it does in all these horrific cases

If she does that child would be removed immediately.

Well you obviously know how devastating it is bringing little babies into the world who can't be looked after! And if their lucky enough social work step in and get them out of there!!

I maybe worded it wrong but I do believe if addicted woman don't try and help their addiction they should be sterillised!

It isn't a matter of making the perpetrator the victim.

It's just that I can imagine a number of scenarios that might have led to the outcome in the news story, and none of them require the demonisation, or dehumanisation of the woman involved.

That the child died is a tragedy, but attempting depict the mother as some kind of lower life form is unhelpful and extraordinarily shortsighted.

It's the sort of knee jerk reactionism that allows everyone else to absolve themselves of guilt, safe in the knowledge that 'normal' people wouldn't ever sink to such depths.

But shit happens, and it can happen to anyone.

But schro they can get through the social work loop hole, I've seen it happen!

And how would you do this? 6 months on drugs and they are tied down, put to sleep, cut open and sterilised? How would you deal with the aftermath of that? And only the women? Will men be done too? I'm sure their would be plenty of riots in protest, millions would have to be spent on care for these people (who were probably once abuse/neglect sufferers anyway) as they would most likely be traumatised from such barbaric treatment.

He was lying in the cot, dead, for EIGHT MONTHS [shocks]
Ye Gods the stench must've been unbearable.

Aside from the stink from that squalor of a flat - did none of her neighbours notice?
(Or even notice that the little boy hadn't been out for all this time?)

Poor soul