to call this person out for this?

[BunnyLebowski]

I realise it's FB and therefore a silly problem but.

Jeremy Fuckface Clarkson posted a vile picture to his twitter today of his equally hateful Top Gear colleagues holding a sign saying 'Gay cunt' next to his ugly sleeping mush .

He promptly deleted the photo.

A relatively new FB friend (fellow mum on school run) has just shared it. With a smiley face.

I am livid and tempted to comment. The use of gay as a pejorative term is one of my major bugbears and is, imo, completely unacceptable.

She has form for making me . She referred to a little mixed race boy in our DDs class as a 'half boy' in a conversation we had and I was too to even process let alone challenge what she said.

I have to see her every day. She seemed like a nice person.

WWYD?

Jesus, are you really that hard of thinking Suzanne or are you hairy handed?

I kinda see Suzanne's point in her latest post. The homophobe having a homophobic prank played on him. I don't buy into some of the other things you've said suzanne but that does make some sense.

I've just been on the phone to a gay friend.

Me: Do people ever call you a 'gay cunt'?

Him: Frequently.

Me: How do you feel about that?

Him: Well, I'm permanently gay and I'm usually being a cunt so I can't really complain.

And that's the sort of reaction I'd expect from someone who isn't obsessed with having his obvious gayness totally ignored by the straight majority.

Oh good grief!

Straw man, Suzanne, Straw man

There's a difference between ignoring someone sexuality and using their sexuality as an insult, we don't have to pretend gay people are straight up be respectful of them and their sexuality.
Calling a gay person a gay cunt means you see their sexuality as part of the reason to dislike or abuse them, not just the fact that they are being a cunt! And doing it a to straight person does the same thing plus insinuates that being gay is something to be mocked, that homosexuality is strange and ridiculous.

Language has always been a huge problem for those who can neither use it nor understand it at any level above grunting and pointing.

It is by no means always offensive to call someone a 'cunt': it's often used as a quite a jovial term.

Likewise, to call someone 'gay' can be similarly inoffensive.

Unless, of course, you're in the PC Brigade and have nothing better to do than seek out reasons to condemn the wider world in revenge for its having excluded you because you're a complete and utter (gay or otherwise).

Why do bigots always refer to non-bigots as a "brigade"? Strange.

Why do bigots always refer to non-bigots as a "brigade"?

They don't, mainly because there's no shortage of bigots to be found in the Fire Brigade, the Boys' Brigade, the Light Brigade and many other brigades.

It might be better to ask why someone with no coherent argument to offer so often asks a question based upon a false premise.

What is an "ugly sleeping mush"?

which. That my dear is the dictionary definition of a sleeping Jeremy Clarkson

Oh, we all know he is a total waste of space and it is slightly embarrassing to check out the gender and IQ of those who love his "programme".

Suzanne did you actually read my post? Your answer is non sensical!

What, as opposed to giving an answer based on a false premise?

Political correctness benefits is all. Why do you want to be racist, sexist and homophobic?

Suzanne did you actually read my post?

Yes

Your answer is nonsensical!

Well, it might be if it were an answer to your post.

But it's not.

I was making a general point.

call her out on it

then defriend

just defreinding does nothing and isn't a challenge

i would challenge

I am part of a anti government facebook group - it's actually a disabilities group who posted a picture of ester Mcvey in a basque with a whip

cant stand ester Mcvey, I called them on their misogynistic bullshit and told them i w as no longer prepared to validate their group with my presence.

Suzanne I am a northerner living in the south. when up north i challenged my children on the term Paki, used by everyone in every sentence spoken. I also challenged them on use of the word 'gay'.

'don't be so gay' 'don't do that, it's gay' 'you're so gay'

they are all used in negative form. the word Gay is never used for positive purposes

so suzanne, by using this word in this manner, you and the people you know are contributing to the negative attitude that gay people face on a daily basis.

change your attitude, change your friends attitude - it starts small - but we can change things through challenging them, by saying to people who use phrases like this that is is not OK we can change the culture of society to once of acceptance not hate and inferiority.

People like Jeremy Clarkson and his little hamster friend just don't appear on my radar, of course I was glad that the hamster one survived a crash a few years ago but apart from that they mean nothing to me.

I certainly don't see them as arbiters of good taste or how to think or anything

not individually, but they do hold a high celeb status, we must think wider than ourselves.

they are in effect sayng that calling someone 'gay' is saying they are something bad, inferior. and they influence a lot of people and normalise this behaviour and language

Suzanne I am a northerner living in the south. when up north i challenged my children on the term Paki, used by everyone in every sentence spoken. I also challenged them on use of the word 'gay'.

'don't be so gay' 'don't do that, it's gay' 'you're so gay'

they are all used in negative form. the word Gay is never used for positive purposes

change your attitude, change your friends attitude - it starts small - but we can change things through challenging them, by saying to people who use phrases like this that is is not OK we can change the culture of society to once of acceptance not hate and inferiority

I agree entirely, but I have to question:

so suzanne, by using this word in this manner, you and the people you know are contributing to the negative attitude that gay people face on a daily basis.

Neither I nor my friends ever use the word 'gay' in that manner.

I'd love to know where you got the impression that we do.

oh, i thought that due to your apologist posts for clarkson.

Suzanne Which bit of this thread do you not understand. You have followed logical fallacy with logical fallacy and despite everybody here trying to encourage you to comprehend that the word 'gay' in this context is absolutely homophobic, you are still unable to comprehend.

As I see it and understand it 'gay' is just a way to describe a person's sexuality, it makes no difference to my life, health or happiness what another consenting adult chooses to do.

Calling someone a 'cunt' I find pejorative and really unpleasant.