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To think this baby does look cold? <warning - judgy pants>

119 replies

Pixel · 16/01/2014 19:14

Saw this in the Mail earlier but to avoid all the don't click nonsense I've found this version.

Obviously massive over-reaction by whoever called the police, and by the police themselves, they certainly have better things to do (or should have, and the woman is right about the response you get if you get burgled or report vandalism), but can't help thinking I would never take a young child out on a prom in January wearing just a thin top like that. At the very least they'd have a warm jumper/cardi and a hat but most probably a coat and mittens and proper shoes/boots. I notice the mum has a thick cardi and boots on!

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BuzzardBird · 16/01/2014 19:57

Well that top does not look like a fleece to me and her Mother didn't say it was a fleece in the interview either, she just said "long, sleeved top" If it had been a warm fleece I am sure she would have pointed that out.

isitsnowingyet · 16/01/2014 20:00

Sorry - that wasn't to you TheDetective - as I completely agree with what you are saying. It's all the other posters who seem to think she was out to murder her own baby by having her run about for 10 minutes without a coat on.

I never made any of my kids wear hats on 'hot' days in the UK. Never. None of them ever had sunstroke or sunburn. You know what? They were just fine.

Mintyy · 16/01/2014 20:02

"I never made any of my kids wear hats on 'hot' days in the UK. Never. None of them ever had sunstroke or sunburn. You know what? They were just fine."

Really? You think a baby can't get sunstroke or sunburn in the UK on a sunny day?

BoffinMum · 16/01/2014 20:02

God, more parent bashing. She looks well dressed and cared for to me, given that it is not really that cold at the moment. If people think children have the wrong clothes on, this is not an emergency, and it is quite frankly wasting police time to ring 999. The thing to do is to express your view to the parent politely. Yes, they might tell you to fuck off, but the police have better things to do than rush out to such calls simply because people want to criticise and are too cowardly to say something to a parent's face.

DelGirl · 16/01/2014 20:04

it's still been photoshopped people scroll down to the last pic which may well be the original.

FudgefaceMcZ · 16/01/2014 20:06

FFS. People in the UK massively over-wrap babies, it's actually been exceptionally mild the last few days and a jumper is enough- I have been walking around in a shirt today when it was daylight. People need to get a grip and not waste police time over something so stupid as parenting styles (overprotective wrap-baby-in-a-million-blankets vs a bit more laissez faire), so they have time to do sensible things.

If I was approached by the police over my 4yo not wearing a coat, I would challenge them to try and get her into one- she refuses unless there is snow on the ground, usually.

LtEveDallas · 16/01/2014 20:07

According to The Scarborough News it was 8 degrees on the promenade on Fri 10 Nov (bloody hell that took some googling!)

I suppose this sort of story pisses me off. It's in the DM, the Daily Express, The Independent, Metro and so on. Mum seems to think that the story is about the fact that she refused to give her name, the papers (and the horrible comments from the public) are all about how the child is being 'neglected' due to being out in the cold... Despite the fact that the photos are posed and I'll bet they took a lot longer than 10 minutes to take....so of course the child is going to look cold in them....dad was actually surfing and didn't turn into an iceberg...some kids (and adults like me) go red at the extremities at the tip of a hat...oh and the police actually walked away without doing anything

It's like people leave their brains at the back door.

coco44 · 16/01/2014 20:08

She doesn't have a jumper on does she? Just a long sleeved T shirt

LtEveDallas · 16/01/2014 20:08

And bloody hell, I wrote Nov instead of Jan! FFS Grin

Mintyy · 16/01/2014 20:09

I think we are agreed here that the police should not have been called.

The question is, was she wearing adequate clothing?

HesterShaw · 16/01/2014 20:10

The comment underneath saying the person reporting her was probably a jealous woman with a barren womb...words fail me. I know that's not the point of the article, but still.

The child does have a red nose and cheeks, but if she was running up and down wasn't she happy enough? If she was that cold wouldn't she have been mithering?

msvenus · 16/01/2014 20:11

My neighbour took her baby out for a walk with a t shirt, joggers & socks on in .December. While she had a padded jacket, Uggs, hat & gloves on. The little fella looked frozen.

ForalltheSaints · 16/01/2014 20:11

Twenty years ago, before calling the police, the person concerned would have spoken to the mum and maybe suggested going somewhere indoors. Now the person probably fears a mouthful of obscenities and threats and so phoned the police first, who feared criticism if they did nothing.

Sirzy · 16/01/2014 20:16

I wouldn't have called the police, certainly not 999 BUT I would have probably passed thinking "little thing needs a jumper on at least"

Sirzy · 16/01/2014 20:17

If she was that cold wouldn't she have been mithering?

Not necessarily, my nephew would happily live naked even if it means he is going blue with cold! He isn't allowed to but its a battle to keep him dressed so he is just about warm enough!

henrysmate · 16/01/2014 20:20

Hester - "a jealous woman with a barren womb", you really think that's an OK thing to say?

TaraLott · 16/01/2014 20:24

I don't think Hester meant it was an ok thing to say at all, I read it as her thinking it was an awful thing to say.

henrysmate · 16/01/2014 20:24

hester, have read again, totally got wrong end of stick there, sorry.

SaucyJack · 16/01/2014 20:25

She looks cold and upset in all the pics to me. Her feet must've been freezing.

henrysmate · 16/01/2014 20:26

Thanks TaraLott, have apologised and promise to wear glasses at all times from now on stares at shoes in shame.

sublimecorpse · 16/01/2014 20:27

She looks frozen - her little hands are red!

member · 16/01/2014 20:30

The baby's colouring makes her look cold.

I do think that the older generation ( I'm not exactly a spring chicken myself at 45) do expect babies and toddlers to be extremely wrapped up by virtue of the fact it's January rather than what the actual temperature is!
The police were in an unenviable position; imagine the outcry if they hadn't checked the situation out & some harm had subsequently befallen the liitle girl? I think the mother's attitude stinks tbh.

TheDetective · 16/01/2014 20:32

What on earth was wrong with what was on her feet?!

My DS has been walking since 9 months, I got him a pair of shoes - seems ridiculous on him, so I put him in soft shoes even though he's walking.

Before that he didn't wear anything other than socks Confused.

squoosh · 16/01/2014 20:35

Load of old nonsense and a waste of police resources.

Child is possibly a bit chilly whilst playing by the sea, oh yeah phone the fucking police.

Pixel · 16/01/2014 20:37

I wouldn't say I was overly obsessed with wrapping up, we've only had our heating on indoors about three times this winter and I do hate to see babies all done up in snowsuits etc when they are in the shops, so I don't think I'm with the 'softy overprotective' brigade. But that little girl doesn't look at all happy even in the 'staged' shots. If she looked like that on the day in question I can see how people could have been worried. I think she looks more like she's ready for bed than a winter walk by the sea.

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