To think this baby does look cold? <warning - judgy pants>

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Saw this in the Mail earlier but to avoid all the don't click nonsense I've found this version.

Obviously massive over-reaction by whoever called the police, and by the police themselves, they certainly have better things to do (or should have, and the woman is right about the response you get if you get burgled or report vandalism), but can't help thinking I would never take a young child out on a prom in January wearing just a thin top like that. At the very least they'd have a warm jumper/cardi and a hat but most probably a coat and mittens and proper shoes/boots. I notice the mum has a thick cardi and boots on!

I'm surprised the mother cant work out why the police responded quickly to this call compared to her '''yobs' near the back of my house'' call. And if she didn't call the police at all about the theft of the wetsuits from their lodge then she can hardly complain that they didn't turn up can she?

It's not rocket science to work out that a call about the welfare of a baby would be a priority to the police.

How is it better to link to a stolen copy of the DM website than the actual DM website?

Never mind the baby, I thought the mother was lucky not to wind up with a police batton down her trachea after declining to give the nice constables her name, etc!

Baby does look cold and no young child of mine would be out and about in January without at least a thick woolly on and a hat and mitts. But they are shoes, not slipper socks she has on.

Do you think perhaps that the DM photographer went later and made sure that the photo was taken with the child wearing thin clothes?

There was a different photo in the actual paper (of mum smiling and baby about to cry) and the caption did say "dressed in the clothes that led to a passer-by dialling 999". Glad you agree with me they are thin .

How is it better to link to a stolen copy of the DM website than the actual DM website? I thought the reason people wouldn't click on DM site was because they earn money from clicks or something? (don't understand it myself). I looked at some other papers but they didn't have pics.

I hate things like this. My own children don't seem to feel the cold like I do and are perfectly happy to run around in the cold in what other judgey people would obviously deem inadequate clothing. They have been like this since babies and I often get stared at in the park and out and about as an irresponsible parent. One woman once told me that my daughter would get flu because her trouser leg had ridden up whilst playing leaving her lower leg exposed!

However I know my kids and once they are obviously no longer happy to play and complaining I get them out of the cold into a warm house or car! Simple! I volunteer in a school and kids can and do take their coats off as they heat up running around whilst slow moving adults are bundled up. I think this idea that kids should be bundled up at all times stems from the days before central heating and heating in cars from a time when if you got very cold it was difficult to warm up again quickly which could be dangerous. Thankfully we don't have this problem nowadays! Let's stop fussing over our children - a child however small will scream unhappily if cold and then as responsible carers we can warm them up! Parents know best what their child's temperature thresholds are. Children with thick coats, hats gloves on simply cannot move properly and cannot play. Better to get out and get some fresh air and warm up later. Science tells us we get colds from viruses too.

JV did state in the interview that the temperature was between 3 and 6C, so yes it was cold. I also think that it could not have been 10 mins as someone had time to report it and the police had time to turn up and find her first.

Baby looks cold, no doubt.

My mum has a photo of me aged about 3. We are on a beach and I'm wearing a swimming costume. My mum has a coat on with a scarf on her head! It was quite clearly blowing a gale! I looked blue with the cold. I did survice(obviously)

I'm more concerned about the policeman's attitude than a little girl being a bit cold for a few minutes.

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I thought the mum came across really badly on Jeremy Vile, sorry but I do.

I truly am one of the least judgy people you could imagine, I have slack standards for all sorts of things and am far from perfect of helicopterish myself BUT Mum in leather boots and thick cardy ... baby in cotton top and the equivalent of ballet shoes?!?! I fully accept that those clothes were probably not the exact same ones being worn at the time but, if they weren't, why on earth isn't that little lovely wrapped up a bit better for the photo shoot?

I don't think the passerby should have called the police (very silly imo) but should have risked the wrath of Mumsnet and said something to the parents.

It happened last Friday:

Paula said that her daughter was wearing woollen tights, a vest, leggings and a fleece top at the time of the incident last Friday

So a double layer on her legs, and a double layer on her top, when the temp was 8 degrees. What exactly is the problem?

Presumably The pictures must have been posed for on a later occasion so we don't know what the kid was actually wearing at the time.
I wonder whether seeing a baby in indoor clothes on a bitter winters might be an indication of being snatched

She looks freezing!

It wasn't 8C though, it was between 3 and 6C

The reason why I thought the Mum came across badly was her why on earth was anyone reporting me attitude. Like, somehow, a passing stranger should have been able to tell she is a nice caring Mummy, not a complete waster. That is a very simplistic and not terribly intelligent attitude to have.

The picture at the bottom is a different colour......photoshop anyone?. She may have a thermal all in one underneath for all we know.

Mmm, saw a bit of this story earlier, and thought it was a bit much to report, but seeing these pictures, the little girl does look cold, and not sure if that was the outfit worn on the day, but doesn't look enough to me.

Tights and a vest are your underwear when you are in nappies.

Would you go out in leggings and a fleece top facing towards the north sea in January?

They said in Mail she was wearing same clothes as in photos.

I'm a parent of a hot child. I noticed from just a couple of days old, my baby couldn't tolerate excess layers. He was born the November before last, and through out that first winter, he wore a vest (short sleeve), baby grow, then cardi and hat for going out, with a blanket tucked around him. No matter how cold it got. His babygrows always had built in scratch mitts, so they would get folded over when out.

I'm sure I got judged. I'm sure I still do. But I'd rather that than have a miserable, over heated, or even dead baby. Babies die from overheating you know!

He just doesn't feel the cold or get cold. I've never known him be cold. Yet I've known the sweat to be dripping off him - his hair wet and stuck to his head, in the middle of winter, because I've put a thin fleece all in one over his clothing, meaning he was just too hot.

No one can say this baby was or wasn't cold! Ridiculous to suggest otherwise. There are lots of reasons why children get red faces - running about in the cold (regardless of layers on!) will do this!

Oh FFS

All the other babies I knew would be bundled up with clothes, cardi, snow suit, hat and thick mittens, plus blankets and cosy toes.

Mine would have gone apeshit, and screamed endlessly through overheating.

I always had to strip layers off him in shops too, even though he wasn't wearing heavy clothing or blankets!