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To really not be sure about this (sorry, long & possibl triggers?)

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extremepie · 09/01/2014 21:14

Not sure where to start :(

Quick background, exH & I spilt up last year, am now a single parent and have virtually no friends and family in the area. Ex moved away so I have just my sister and one friend left to talk to/interact with. Had to give up work when we spilt to look after DC's so have been very lonely & feeling isolated :(

A few weeks ago I met a dad with his daughter at the bus stop at the school, we got chatting and spent the whole journey into town talking about our kids, he told me all about his girlfriend who had a week prior given birth and it was just generally chatty conversation. Nothing flirty or sexual at all in the slightest.

Before we parted ways he said to add him on Facebook so I did and later that night he started messaging me saying he was in the area (he lives fairly close to me) and did he want me to pop over and say hi so I said ok.

I know now it was really stupid but I was so lonely and desperate for company that I really wanted a friend and someone to chat to - he had told me they hadn't been in the area that long & didn't know many people so I assumed he was feeling the same and it was purely friendly.

He turned up & after I let him in I realised that he was really drunk - this made me feel really uneasy but he made it quite clear quite quickly what he was there for, ie sex.

I won't go into detail but basically he said he wanted to have sex with me, I told him I didn't want that, started talking about his girlfriend and his kids to put him off but he became quite angry and said he would hold me down if I didn't want to do it.

After trying to talk him out of it and asking him several times to leave he made it obvious that he wasn't going to go until he got what he wanted and I was so scared he would hurt me to get it I said I would. I just wanted him out of my house and he wouldn't leave :(

After, I got him out as quick as possible & promised myself I would never tell anyone or talk about it ever again, I would pretend it never happened and forget about it. Yesterday I told my sister and my friend because I just couldn't deal with it anymore :(

AIBU to not be sure if this was rape? It totally doesn't fit with what I thought rape was that I'm really not sure. I feel so ashamed, I feel it was my own stupid fault for being so naive and so trusting and for letting him in my house. I feel like such a fucking idiot and because I did agree (albeit under duress) that it wasn't rape? I don't know what to do now, now that I've told someone I keep going over it in my head and I'm distraught and I keep going over all the things he said and did. Feel like it's all my own fault :(

OP posts:
stickysausages · 11/01/2014 10:00

Sorry, was posting under the influence last night... My blurred lines comment was aimed at OP not knowing if it was rape or not, that it doesn't fit in with what you think rape is iykwim. I didn't mean the OP had done anything wrong, it's just sad when women are left doubting themselves because they've been manipulated.

Sorry

nocheeseinhouse · 11/01/2014 10:01

As a counter to this: I recently met and got chatting to a bloke in similar circumstances. He then popped round with a bottle of wine, and we spent the evening chatting. We're both single, it could have meant sex, but neither of us consented, so we've spent a couple of other evenings the same way. We're both lonely, and it's nice.

He hasn't raped me, because he ISN'T A RAPIST.

Allowing a man into your home does not give anyone permission to rape you. Being lonely does not give anyone permission to rape you. In this day and age, surely a woman can chat to a man without anyone thinking raping her is okay?

Hugs, OP. This is not your fault. It's totally his. A nice, normal man would not do this. He is a rapist c*nt, and if you are up to reporting, then that would be very brave, and the right thing to do. But if you don't, know you are believed, supported, and that he has to live with himself. What a gastly man.

extremepie · 11/01/2014 10:02

It's ok sticky that was how I read it :) I think that a lot of women probably don't report because of the same reason :/

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thegreylady · 11/01/2014 10:14

I do think that, at the very least, this needs to be officially documented somewhere. I bet he has done it before and I am sure he will do it again. Next time someone might panic and fight (you were wise not to) and the consequences could be worse than rape even. He sounds like a nasty, bullying piece of work. He is counting on not being reported. He is a rapist.

LouiseSmith · 11/01/2014 10:27

Ring the police!!! I'm so sorry you had to go through that. But Hunni, you need to report it and let him know it's not ok. :(

Osmiornica · 11/01/2014 10:35

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waltermittymissus · 11/01/2014 11:27

nocheese great post!

nennypops · 11/01/2014 11:33

OP, please put one of those spyholes in your front door, or at least a chain, so that you never open your door to him again.

Viviennemary · 11/01/2014 11:36

It was rape. He threatened you. This should be reported to the police. Or at least phone a rape crisis centre and get advice from them.

KateSMumsnet · 11/01/2014 14:20

Hello,

Thanks to those who reported this thread to us, and we'd just l like to link to our rape awareness campaign, We Believe You. Extremepie - there may be some useful links and information on those pages should you want to take a look. Everyone at MNHQ is wishing you the very best Thanks

JoinYourPlayfellows · 11/01/2014 14:44

"My blurred lines comment was aimed at OP not knowing if it was rape or not, that it doesn't fit in with what you think rape is iykwim."

That's a really good point, sticky, sorry for taking you up the wrong way.

softlysoftly · 12/01/2014 01:26

sticky that makes more sense, sorry it just read wrongly to me.

Op I hope you are ok.

goodasitgets · 12/01/2014 01:42

If you are worried about him coming back, tell the police that, they can help
Door chain or bolt a good idea, and maybe keep a personal alarm near the door if it makes you feel a bit safer, and carry it with you?
I was assaulted by someone in my house and it was more scary because I thought he might come back. So I didn't come home at the same time every day, I left work a few mins later/went to the supermarket

QueenStromba · 12/01/2014 10:01

I've recently reported a similar rape where I consented under duress. The police are taking it very seriously and have been lovely. Mine happened five years ago and I can't even remember his name but they are doing their best to find him. They said that this sort of thing is way more common than the stereotypical stranger in a dark alley.

comedycentral · 12/01/2014 12:12

What a bloody bastard he is. You poor thing. I am so concerned about you. He knows where you live, he knows you haven't reported it yet. When do you move? Can you stay with a relative? I am so sorry this has happened to you. None of this is your fault.

extremepie · 25/05/2014 09:54

Just thought I'd say thank you to everyone who posted on this thread and give a quick update....

I've reported him! Phoned 101, gave his name, approximate address and told them what happened, now just have to wait for a video interview. Apparently because I have told a few people they can help back up my story despite the lack of physical evidence so that's good!

They have told me that if he contacts me again in any way to get in touch, he knows where I live and it's not far from him but at least they know now :) Even if nothing comes of it all I wanted to go was make sure what he did is recorded and on file in case (god forbid) it happens again. I want to try and make sure he doesn't try anything like this again, if nothing else maybe if he gets arrested and interviewed by the police it will give him a wake up call!

Thanks for your support :)

OP posts:
kalidanger · 25/05/2014 10:03

Oh, good for you! Thanks You sound so happy and relieved :)

It's great you told us as you have a useful record of what happened in your posts on here.

Very best of luck with it all. I feel a bit tearful and hope you're getting lots of real life hugs x

Honeybear30 · 25/05/2014 11:02

When I opened this thread and saw it was from January I was really hoping that when I clicked on 'last' it will have been revived because you reported him, and you have! So pleased you found the strength OP, you have absolutely done the right thing.

weatherall · 25/05/2014 11:11

Well done OP.

I hope you are getting ongoing support.

Ifpigscouldfly · 25/05/2014 11:54

Well done OP !

dawndonnaagain · 25/05/2014 11:57

Well done, OP I hope you feel better soon. Please contact Rape Crisis to ensure you have ongoing support.

Pigglesworth · 25/05/2014 12:21

I'm very glad you reported him. I'm sorry to read what happened to you. :(

nestee · 25/05/2014 12:23

That was really brave of you. Well done xx

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