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To really not be sure about this (sorry, long & possibl triggers?)

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extremepie · 09/01/2014 21:14

Not sure where to start :(

Quick background, exH & I spilt up last year, am now a single parent and have virtually no friends and family in the area. Ex moved away so I have just my sister and one friend left to talk to/interact with. Had to give up work when we spilt to look after DC's so have been very lonely & feeling isolated :(

A few weeks ago I met a dad with his daughter at the bus stop at the school, we got chatting and spent the whole journey into town talking about our kids, he told me all about his girlfriend who had a week prior given birth and it was just generally chatty conversation. Nothing flirty or sexual at all in the slightest.

Before we parted ways he said to add him on Facebook so I did and later that night he started messaging me saying he was in the area (he lives fairly close to me) and did he want me to pop over and say hi so I said ok.

I know now it was really stupid but I was so lonely and desperate for company that I really wanted a friend and someone to chat to - he had told me they hadn't been in the area that long & didn't know many people so I assumed he was feeling the same and it was purely friendly.

He turned up & after I let him in I realised that he was really drunk - this made me feel really uneasy but he made it quite clear quite quickly what he was there for, ie sex.

I won't go into detail but basically he said he wanted to have sex with me, I told him I didn't want that, started talking about his girlfriend and his kids to put him off but he became quite angry and said he would hold me down if I didn't want to do it.

After trying to talk him out of it and asking him several times to leave he made it obvious that he wasn't going to go until he got what he wanted and I was so scared he would hurt me to get it I said I would. I just wanted him out of my house and he wouldn't leave :(

After, I got him out as quick as possible & promised myself I would never tell anyone or talk about it ever again, I would pretend it never happened and forget about it. Yesterday I told my sister and my friend because I just couldn't deal with it anymore :(

AIBU to not be sure if this was rape? It totally doesn't fit with what I thought rape was that I'm really not sure. I feel so ashamed, I feel it was my own stupid fault for being so naive and so trusting and for letting him in my house. I feel like such a fucking idiot and because I did agree (albeit under duress) that it wasn't rape? I don't know what to do now, now that I've told someone I keep going over it in my head and I'm distraught and I keep going over all the things he said and did. Feel like it's all my own fault :(

OP posts:
2andout · 10/01/2014 09:39

Hi extremepie, just wanted to echo what everyone else has said. I am so so sorry that you are having to go through this with no support around, please do ring rape crisis or similar. You may not be ready to talk to the police yet, and that's understandable but maybe you could take some steps to preserve any evidence for the future, even if that's just writing down what happened while details are still fresh? Things like exact times, what he was wearing, his exact words etc. This might help if you are able to talk to the police in the future. I am so sorry that this awful thing happened to you, he deliberately identified that you were vulnerable and then targeted you. He is pure evil. Much love and hugs to you. Xxxx

Goldencity1 · 10/01/2014 11:38

My love, it was rape. It was not your fault. You did not egg him on by having red hair. You have done nothing wrong, do not be ashamed.

Call rape crisis, let your friend and sister support you.

If you can, report him to the police. If he has done this once, he may do it again. I find the fact that he has been back to see you disturbing to say the least.

sending online support and hugs

extremepie · 10/01/2014 12:04

I think he came back to make sure I wasn't going to say anything :(

I do find the fact he came back scary though, especially since he was drunk (again) and wanted to come in the house (again), obviously I didn't let him in that time - I stood in the doorway so he couldn't push his way in, thank god my sister was here or he might have tried anyway :(

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JoinYourPlayfellows · 10/01/2014 12:08

He raped you and he came back to your house and you were afraid he would force his way in.

You need to call the police and report what happened.

He is a dangerous man and your are vulnerable.

WilsonFrickett · 10/01/2014 12:10

OK I didn't pick up on the trying to push his way back in thing before.

Please, please try and report this to the police, you are vulnerable. Can you fit a key-chain lock thing? Don't answer the door unless you have your phone in your hand.

I wish I could help you.

IDontDoIroning · 10/01/2014 22:11

Omg call the police - he had obviously come back for another try and failed because you didn't let him in / your dsis was there.

He might come back again and you might not be able to fight him off next time.

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 10/01/2014 22:21

You went into survival mode.

He said if you didn't have sex with him he was going to do it anyway.

You was raped and he needs reporting.

What a complete and utter cunt ( and I never use that word)

TheGinLushMinion · 10/01/2014 22:28

WTAF, what a cunt-yes he raped you & yes you should call the police as, from your OP description, he Is predator-dangerous.

extremepie · 10/01/2014 22:33

I should report him. I just don't want to do it until I've moved :( our kids go to the same school so I don't want to risk running into him afterwards :(

It happened weeks ago now there won't be any evidence, I shouldn't have waited so long :(

I keep thinking about his girlfriend, how unfair it is on her too :(

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StrawColoured · 10/01/2014 22:34

OMG this has shocked me to the core.

Call the police. Call Rape Crisis. Fit a door-viewer and a door chain.

waltermittymissus · 10/01/2014 22:44

Nothing, nothing about this is your fault.

You're survival instinct kicked in. He was drunk and aggressive and could have really hurt you.

If you're not up to phoning the police just yet please call rape crisis.

Don't worry about his family. He doesn't deserve them anyway.

stickysausages · 10/01/2014 22:51

Oh my, I'm so sorry you're going through this :(

Shows how blurred the lines are, but yes... he took advantage :(

Look after yourself & do whatever feels right to you x

Oscarandelliesmum · 10/01/2014 22:52

He is a vile rapist piece of shit. You have done nothing wrong. But you may be able to help the next woman he meets on a bus by speaking out now. As for his poor gf and children....they are not your responsibility, they are his and he is soley to blame for all repurcussuons iof this crime. Rapists are entitled fuckwits (I dont mean to sound trite) and he will be acting in character at home too and his fiance may well be only too aware of what he is capable of and if not I know that I would want to know what kind of dangerous vermin I was tying myself to. I am so sorry that this happened to youSad

Adeleh · 10/01/2014 23:00

Please phone rapecrisis,and take good good care of yourself. It wasn't your fault. Sending virtual hug xxxxx

McFox · 10/01/2014 23:03

I understand that you want to wait until you move before speaking up the police, but he's already been back and been put off because someone else was there. What happens if he comes back again and you are alone with your DC? You need to think about your safety now - that's what the police are there for.

I truly understand how scared you feel, and how this fear might make you feel unable to act in terms of reporting him. My attacker was a serial rapist. His attack on me and police involvement was what stopped him - they had been investigating the previous incidents and my case was their 'lucky break', albeit not so lucky for me. Please think about speaking to them, or at least taking advice from rape crisis because this man sounds cold and calculating to me.

softlysoftly · 10/01/2014 23:15

There are no blurred lines sausage Shock.

He met someone he knew was vulnerable, tricked his way into her home knowing she would be unprotected then verbally threatened her and raped her. He then came back to try again not knowing she was not alone this time.

Nothing fucking blurred about it.

op don't you dare blame yourself, all blame lies with that vile man. Call rapecrisis even if you choose not to report (which you should if you can) you need someone to listen and support you and keep you safe.

Ledkr · 10/01/2014 23:16

I have just got my dh to read this as he is a policeman.
He is very angry for you and assures you that if you report it you will be treated as any other rape victim.
He also thinks him coming round after us a little worrying.
I understand you don't want to see him at school but its him who should feel that not you.
I'm very sorry this happened to you.
Don't let him walk away from it.

Ledkr · 10/01/2014 23:17

Yes I agree. Call rape crisis even if you don't report him.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 10/01/2014 23:21

Yes, there are NO blurred lines.

He didn't "take advantage", he came into your house and threatened you into having non-consensual sex.

It's open and closed rape.

There is no doubt about what happened.

He came into your house with the intention of raping you and he raped you.

Then he came back.

KatOD · 10/01/2014 23:27

OP you clearly have to do what you feel safe with. Once you feel safe (and have talked things through with someone you trust, close or otherwise) please report this evil rapist.

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 10/01/2014 23:29

Blurred lines are you fucking serious.

It's these kind if reason why women don't go to the police.

Sharaluck · 10/01/2014 23:34

You need to speak to one of the rape helplines listed already. Ask them for advice about going to the police.

You need the police to help you protect yourself from him doing it again. I do really worry for you as he has already been back once :(

LunaticFringe · 10/01/2014 23:46

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augenblick · 11/01/2014 06:48

This is rape, you were attacked in your own home. I think part of the reason to tell the police is to help you feel safe again - which while he is coming round you are not going to.

Nothing that happened is your fault, there are no "blurred lines" there is consent to have sex or no consent. Even if the immediate DNA evidence has gone, there is still other evidence available. Please talk to someone to get support and know how much care is being sent to you here.

feathermucker · 11/01/2014 09:24

Oh, you poor thing - I would say that it also 'classes' as ABH too, though not sure about the legalities of that etc.

I think you've been incredibly, incredibly brave posting on here. Well done xx

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