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not to apologise when I have done no wrong??

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ColdFeetWarmHeart · 04/01/2014 23:07

Will try to keep this brief. Dh uncle put a photo of dd on facebook last night. I commented asking when it was taken as I didn't remember/see it taken. Your standard type of comment for facebook pics, I feel. Dh unc explained it was christmas day and I was in another room. My last comment before I went to bed was that he must have been quick as I hadnt seen him.(lol).
I then get an email asking if there was a problem posting the picture. I replied no, just asking as I didnt see you with your camera that day.

I went to bed, and woke this morning with what felt to me like quite a shitty email. "Sorry but I do think there is a problem. It seems to me you think I would go into your bedroom when you're asleep and take photos. I'm not this sort of person. So to keep everyone happy I'll keep away from your flat"

Wtf??! Told dh and he could not see why his unc went off like that. Dh phoned mil this evening to see if something else had happened to upset him.mil told us we had to grovel etc to unc - cue a big row between dh and mil!

Dh phoned unc and explained it was just a simple question - no offence/malice meant etc. Unc said we'd put it down to a misunderstanding. But mil reckons it would have been better if I had called, and I still should phone/mail.

Should I message and "apologise"? I haven't done so far, and asked dh to do it, because

  1. I didn't say anything wrong
  2. It's dh's family having freakouts, not mine
  3. I worry if I say something I'd make it worse (I really wanted to tell him not to put words in my mouth!)
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DamnBamboo · 04/01/2014 23:15

Firstly, does he even have either of your permissions to post a photo of your child on facebook?

My guess is not, as you didn't know the photo existed.

You need to address this aspect of things with him first!

TwoLeftSocks · 04/01/2014 23:15

How strange, seems like they're making a mountain out of a molehill there. Will it just settle if you leave it now that your DH has already spoke to his uncle?

Wevet · 04/01/2014 23:15

To be honest, I think that if I'd received those comments from the parent of a child of whom I'd posted a FB photo, I would definitely assume they were annoyed with me, or that they were implying I had taken a surreptitious photo when the parent was out of the room.

But then, in your shoes, I would be annoyed. I don't put photos of my own child in FB, and would think that someone else doing so was massively overstepping the mark.

FunkyBoldRibena · 04/01/2014 23:16

I wouldn't. I'd be happy that he was keeping away from my flat though, that bit about going into the bedroom says more about him than you to be honest.

TheMaw · 04/01/2014 23:19

Tone is a really difficult thing to pick up on text, so things like this happen all the time. Is it really such a big deal to phone and apologise/explain for the sake of family harmony?

Lilacroses · 04/01/2014 23:24

I wouldn't post pics like that on fbook of children unless I was certain their parents wouldn't mind. If I was sure of that fact I think I would feel a bit worried/offended if they then asked when the photo was taken and why they didn't know about it. I would certainly assume that they were unhappy about it. I think his reaction (I wont come to your flat etc) was odd and ott though. I'd call him and just talk about it. I can see how the misunderstanding has grown out of all proportion.

ImperialBlether · 04/01/2014 23:24

Is your daughter asleep in the photo? I don't understand what he means about going into your bedroom - not sure I want to, either.

ImperialBlether · 04/01/2014 23:24

Is your daughter asleep in the photo? I don't understand what he means about going into your bedroom - not sure I want to, either.

ColdFeetWarmHeart · 04/01/2014 23:24

Both mil and her brother make a mountain out if a molehill all the time!! Not only do they take everything to heart but they also jump to conclussions, so half the time they just upset themselves. Apparently I've accused him of being a perv!

He doesnt officially have permission to post photos - he has done in the past though and we've said nithing. Though dh told him tonight that it's fine, as long as there are no bath/swimming pool pictures etc.

I think it will blow over with uncle - maybe not mil. She can hold a grudge for ages over smallest thing. Though I dont suppose saying something now instead of at first will change her opinion if me.

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Whoknowswhocares · 04/01/2014 23:25

It's perfectly possible to apologise for your comments being misunderstood without apologising for the actual comments.
Just word it carefully so that you are sorry about how he felt and not what you did iykwim.

happytalk13 · 04/01/2014 23:28

He sounds utterly bonkers - toxic even. I would not be apologising for him being offended over something I didn't say.

NatashaBee · 04/01/2014 23:28

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ColdFeetWarmHeart · 04/01/2014 23:33

Themaw - I'm not just having a tantrum myself and refusing to call. I'm worried I'll say something that will make things worse. Plus im a bit pissed off myself really.am I not allowed to ask a simple question?? Esp about my own dd?

I only asked him when he took photo. It was not the spanish Inquisition. He then messaged me asking if there was a problem, to which I said of course not. He then went way ott!

Dd not asleep, but laying in her cot shortly after waking.

I feel like I can't say anything now. Will always be worried things will kick off again. Though if I stay quiet mil will moan I'm antisocial .....

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WestieMamma · 04/01/2014 23:38

Assuming the cot is in your room and she'd just woken, you questions could easily be taken as you thinking he'd crept into your room while you were asleep. I can see why he's upset. Miscommunication is the problem here.

ColdFeetWarmHeart · 04/01/2014 23:40

Whoknows - this is what dh did.

Happilytalk - yes this is often how I view in laws . normally just mil. This is only 2nd experience of it with the uncle.

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WestieMamma · 04/01/2014 23:42

Alternatively he may well have crept into your room and that's why he's defensive about you appearing to be onto him.

rockybalboa · 04/01/2014 23:42

Your comment was a bit odd tbh. I find it hard to believe you genuinely didn't know when it was taken given that Christmas Day was less than 2 weeks ago and looking at the pic and where it was taken and what your DD was wearing and what she was doing would have made it pretty obvious no? I think your first comment was snippy and your second one about being out of the room was even more snippy and made him look like he was being accused on his FB page. I also think he has over reacted with his email but I can see why he was offended so I don't agree you've done nothing wrong.

ColdFeetWarmHeart · 04/01/2014 23:44

But why jump to conclusion that I think he's a perv etc? I know people take things the wrong way at times.but isn't this a bit much?

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WestieMamma · 04/01/2014 23:48

Because a bloke creeping into a woman's bedroom while she's asleep to take pictures could well be considered pervy. If that's what he thinks you're implying then his conclusion isn't much of a jump at all.

TheMaw · 04/01/2014 23:51

I didn't say you were having a tantrum, I said tone is difficult to convey online - I wasn't having a go. Probably proves my point! Just thought it might be worth trying to smooth it over for the sake of your DH and family.

ENormaSnob · 04/01/2014 23:53

Yanbu

Leave em to their stupid histrionics

happytalk13 · 04/01/2014 23:54

So hang on...he actually came into your bedroom, while you were asleep, and took pictures of your DD in her cot? If that's the case, no matter how innocent, I would find that unsettling.

ENormaSnob · 04/01/2014 23:54

Yanbu

Leave em to their stupid histrionics

Mellowandfruitful · 04/01/2014 23:55

Erm, if I thought someone believed I might have crept into a person's room and taken a picture of their young child, I would be mortified that they would think I'd do that and I would be at pains to reassure them that I hadn't, would never do so, etc. I reckon Westie is onto something. It doesn't mean he has any malevolent intent but sometimes family members casually assume they can do whatever they please with regard to young children by way of being 'family' and get snippy when challenged - putting photos on Facebook without asking first is a prime example of this.

OP, I think you're actually on to a winner with less contact. If it comes up again (which from the sound of it, it will) keep repeating a line that you have already explained there was a misunderstanding and if he doesn't want to put that aside there is nothing more to be done.

ColdFeetWarmHeart · 04/01/2014 23:56

I dont feel that my actual comments were snippy, though they may have translated that way on here. Dh didnt think I said anything wrong, neither did mil!

I assumed it was christmas day but asked him as I genuinely didnt see him with his camera that day. She was ina sleepbag, so not as easy as recognising outfit etc.

Just for clarification, convo went like this
"When did you take this?"
"Christmas day"
"I know, but when did you sneak into our room? Lol"
"In the morning"
"You must have been quick, I didnt see you"
"You were in front room...."

Reading back now, I can see how he could have misunderstood my words. I will have a think tonight and carefully word an email explaining my comments were in jest as per social networking.

However I still feel he over-reacted. I'll now be over-thinking everything I ever say to him, and I definitely wont be conversing via email/facebook again!!!!!

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