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AIBU to expect a girlfriend medal for attending a Fox Hunt with DPs family?!

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CosyTeaBags · 27/12/2013 13:13

Yesterday I attended a Fox hunt with my DPs family.

I have been vegetarian for 25 years. I work in conservation, and feel very strongly about animal rights. I'm a country girl, so I appreciate that sometimes predator control is necessary, but I HATE the idea of it being a sport. In my experience the real sheep farmers just go out and deal with foxes, they don't get dressed up in fancy clothes and toot horns all day. I used to hear the hunt go past my house as a child, I would stand in the garden and scream at them when I heard the horns. Suffice to say, I have strong feelings about this...

I'm also a working class socialist and feel a slightly disporportionate inverse snobbery against the whole fucking tally-ho red coated brigade. It just makes my blood run cold.

I've always been aware that DPs family are into fox hunting, it's been a subject we agree to disagree on, I would never discuss it with them - I respect their feelings and that's fine. DP however, is a bigger animal lover than I am. I always assumed he felt the same way I did.

Until yesterday. DP had arranged for us to join his family to follow the hunt. We discussed it weeks ago and I said I wasn't happy with it and didn't want to go. He said that was fine, and we would make arrangements to meet them afterwards for dinner. Fast forward to Christmas eve - I asked DP what the arrangements were for Boxing day and he told me we were meeting them first thing to follow the hunt. I went ballistic - I felt that he had totally disregarded our previous conversation and had no respect whatsoever for my feelings. His solution was that I could "Just sit in the house on your own while we go out" and that would be fine...

I was now in a position of being damned if I did and damned if I didn't - I could sit at home and look like a stroppy cow, or I could suck it up and go for the sake of being a good girlfriend.

I chose to go. I thought I shouldn't judge until I've seen it for myself. Fucking hell it was hard - as the riders rode out, all 70 of them I burts into tears and had to hide myself. I'm a pretty emotional person and it just overwhelmed me. It was just so alien to me to be standing there while everyone was cheering them off to go and chase foxes...

We then followed the hunt, and to be fair they didn't actually do anything bad, they were just out for a nice ride. I get that, I really do. But I'm also mortally afraid of horses - fucking terrified of the bastard things. My dog is quite frail, and he's not as quick on his feet as he used to be. MiL grabbed him and paraded him past all the massive horses and I was terrified that he might get kicked or trampled on.

We placed ourselves right in the path of the hunt and stood by as they all thundered past us. I was friggin terrified for myself and my dog. (and I admit it, I was judging all the people as well, they're just so not my type of people). MiL and family had no idea of my real feelings, they thought I was enjoying myself.

So far, so good daughter-in-law, right?. I was proud of myself for going through that for the sake of my DP and to make his DM happy.

But he didn't acknowledge this. He said a weak "thank you for coming" on the way home, but that was all. I sat and brooded all night, then exploded with him that he ought to have been bloody grateful that I went through that for him, that I fucking cried and was terrified and not once did he ask me if I was ok. He should have apologized, told me he loved me for doing that for him, told me how grateful he was. Instead I got a half-arsed "Oh but I said thank you..." and that was all.

This morning he has said all the right things, but AIBU to expect a bit more gratitude and praise?!?!

I don't want this to be a debate about fox hunting - there are other threads for that, and I really don't care what other people do. I'm just pissed off with DP (again) for his selfish attitude and need someone to tell me if I'm right or whether I should get over myself!!!

OP posts:
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/12/2013 15:04

DressingDown... Indeed. However, if you're wanting to boast on a chatboard and you haven't anything else, implication will do just as well. I blame it on too much Downton Abbey...

TikkaTurkey · 27/12/2013 15:14

I'm not sure why you think you should be proud of yourself for going against everything you believe in for the sake of pleasing a man. And if he had anything about him he wouldn't have wanted you to either.

This! If I felt as strongly about something as you say you do about fox hunting, I wouldn't have gone.

Workberk · 27/12/2013 15:21

OP I get you. I've done things and acted in ways that weren't very "me" to try to please the in laws. I really wish I hadn't in hindsight.

The thing was, DH changed his behaviour around his OWN family so I felt perhaps I needed to as well.

oldgrandmama · 27/12/2013 15:31

I feel sorry for the frail old dog. Fancy taking it to a fox hunt that wasn't actually a fox hunt ... Some animal lover, eh?

And I feel sorry for your DP. Sorry.

CosyTeaBags · 27/12/2013 15:31

Some of the projecting and assumptions on here are hilarious. I can see why AIBU often turns into such a bunfight.

My particular favourite assumptions so far are:

I bet you eat fish, too - Wow. Next time you post something about a spat you had with your DP, remind me to accuse you or.. oh I don't know, eating mushrooms or something.

And this:

Oh I didn't think you wanted to 'debate' the issue again. I thought you:

1. Wanted to present yourself with some kind of upper class affiliation with all the pretensions you feel exist
2. Wanted to impress on a chatboard that your 'family to be' are monied/titled/whatever
3. Wanted the traffic so threw in 'fox hunt' and put it on AIBU...

You're spectacularly wrong on all three assumptions, but they did make me smile.

Like I said in my OP I really don't want to start a debate on fox hunting /drag hunting whatever it's called.

Also, I must defend myself - I certainly did not burst into tears and throw a hissy fit in front of everyone. THey were all completely oblivious to how I felt - I held it together completely but had to suppress tears in secret. I'm no tantrum throwing princess.

Workberk thank you for getting to the point of my OP and seeing past the ridiculous assumptions about my personal food preferences and class pretences. And you're right, it's about the issue of doing something that wasn't 'Me' to please the in laws. I was wrong, and I'm annoyed with myself for that.

OP posts:
CosyTeaBags · 27/12/2013 15:33

I feel sorry for the frail old dog. Fancy taking it to a fox hunt that wasn't actually a fox hunt ... Some animal lover, eh? I had been told that we would simply be seeing the horses off from the town square. I had no idea we would be getting anywhere near them. I felt sorry for my dog too - in the event he behaved very well and wasn't bothered at all, but I was just scared for him.

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scottishmummy · 27/12/2013 15:41

Pity you couldn't muster the same argumentative zeal when it came to saying no to hunt
This isn't about your dp,or his mum.its about you and ease of compromise
Are you desperate to marry,settle down.do you think attending hunt made you their sort?

KurriKurri · 27/12/2013 15:51

Hi - haven't had time to read all the responses, but I think you should take this chance to re-evaluate your relationship. Personally I would never go to a fox hunt, nor would I go out with someone who wanted to go himself, and also expected me to accompany him. It would be a deal breaker for me.

You have to ask yourself, if your ideas on this topic are so far apart, do you also differ on other matters of principle, - they may not emerge now, but they may as you progress in your relationship. Also will you always be the person who has to bow down to his life style choices?

If he isn't prepared to at least meet you half way,then you will constantly be changing yourself and your principles to meet his needs. It's an insidious process and you might not even notice it happening at first. Then you will lose your identity, the person that you are, for another person. And in the long run someone who wants you to change who you are, is not worth being with.

Good luck - you have obviously been very upset by this, and I hope you manage to find some sort of resolution to it all.

scottishmummy · 27/12/2013 15:53

Your op is riddled with class prejudice, the whole fucking tally-ho red coated brigade
You've already acknowledged your inverse snobbery.all that said you still went on hunt?
What will your next compromise be, why are you trying so hard to please this man

You've embellished the post with your contempt fir the hunt,and his class
Yet you're gagging to marry him,marry into what you hold contemptible
You refer to yourself as daughter-in-law.your not. And she's not your mil

NigellasDealer · 27/12/2013 15:55

cosy teabags i have three words to say to you.
get a grip

ElkTheory · 27/12/2013 15:56

I don't think you sound like a doormat at all. Nor do you sound like the perfect girlfriend. In your OP you mention two tantrums directed against your boyfriend (when you went "ballistic" and when you "exploded"). That sounds like an extremely juvenile way to interact with someone you are in a relationship with. The guy probably doesn't know whether he is coming or going. If I were him, I would run for the hills. Or saddle my horse and gallop far, far away.

It doesn't seem as though you compromised your principles one iota. You went to a fake hunt, during which no foxes were harmed. So what? If you genuinely didn't want to go, you could have graciously declined the invitation. You don't want to appear "stroppy and entitled"? Well, then don't behave as you describe in your OP.

5OBalesofHay · 27/12/2013 15:56

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think drag hunting is cruel. I couldn't run in high heels, frock and wig.

MoreThanChristmasCrackers · 27/12/2013 16:02

OP, your principles obviously mean nothing to you.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 27/12/2013 16:04

I think the OP has got the message and is being commendably gracious in the face of some quite nasty responses.

scottishmummy · 27/12/2013 16:06

Instead if you paraphrasing lets wait in the op coming back to tell us why aibu is bungight

Peekingduck · 27/12/2013 16:08

Kurrikurri, this might be one thread worth reading. No foxes were involved. Xmas Grin

"Like I said in my OP I really don't want to start a debate on fox hunting /drag hunting whatever it's called."
Op, now I think you are being disingenuous, you know damn well that fox hunting and drag hunting are very different, and you know that you misrepresented the situation in your original post:
"I'm a country girl, so I appreciate that sometimes predator control is necessary, but I HATE the idea of it being a sport. In my experience the real sheep farmers just go out and deal with foxes, they don't get dressed up in fancy clothes and toot horns all day."
You typed that knowing full well that no foxes were involved in the day's activities at all.
I think you're winding people up...

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas · 27/12/2013 16:10

Why would staying behind make you seem sulky or whatever? Wouldn't it just make you seem seem like someone who wasn't into hunting?

If you are a left-wing vegetarian, it really is easier if you try to go out with a fellow left-wing vegetarian.

Tiredemma · 27/12/2013 16:11

here you go

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enjoy

KurriKurri · 27/12/2013 16:14

I will go back and read properly Peekingduck - but I think the general gist was that OP had done something she didn't approve of to keep her boyfriend quiet - IMO, not a good thing to do in a relationship, whether the issue is fox hunting/drag hunting or something else entirely.

mouldyironingboard · 27/12/2013 16:14

I think your in laws and your DP would respect your opinions if you had simply said 'sorry I won't be joining you but drag hunting isn't for me. Have a nice time and see you later'

Like others have said we have all tried to show an interest in something to try to impress a partner or their family at some point in our lives. The important lesson to learn from this is to always be yourself rather than try to compromise your beliefs to suit other people. If your DP or his family don't like you or accept you for who you are then they are the ones with a problem, not you.

Oldraver · 27/12/2013 16:17

More fool you..... Your OH now knows your principles are not to be respected.

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas · 27/12/2013 16:18

Also, there may well be good reason why the "stroppy" ex-wife didn't get on with his family!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/12/2013 16:24

You're a bit presumptuous, OP, you're already talking about next year as well as referring to your in-laws... I do hope your er... DP is ok with being permanently 'saddled'(grin) with you? What if one of the County ladies has already been promised? I do hope you're not being taken for a ride after all the effort you've put in to your performance.

ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight · 27/12/2013 16:27

Apologies if already posted but why are you / were you worried about going to a hunt? It's not fox hunting any more, that's banned.
So you got all worked up about going to a drag hunt Hmm

ThingsThatGoBumpInTheNight · 27/12/2013 16:29

Sorry posted too soon
So after reading your op and thinking about all the other fox hunting threads I'd say next year stay under your bridge