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to think that SIL should not take it upon herself to tell my son off

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olympicsrock · 27/12/2013 06:11

Another delightful thread about in laws at Christmas time. Yesterday we went to Bil(DH brother) and SILs house. DH and his brother have not been getting on we'll recently but we went because they wanted to play happy families for pil. I need a rant....
We have DS aged just 2 , bil and sil have DC aged 21 months with 'borderline' Developmental delay, walking at 19 months, poor dexterity, no words can't or doesn't use a cup. So as not to dripfeed, around 6 months ago the extended family were concerned about this child ( trying not to out myself by being too specific) but bil and Sil were reluctant to involve health professionals. SIL and I were never great friends in the past as v different but became friends when pregnant . SIL went to a lot a trouble cooking a special meal yesterday the full on Christmas dinner but was v controlling about the plans for the family get together. It irritates me that she never suggests toddler friendly plans (previously suggesting evening meals as her DC loves staying up til 10 pm as one example and then assuming that if we drove 90 mins around lunchtime that our DC would still go for a long afternoon nap while the adults ate. He sleeps in the car if you time it roughly with nap time. So I suggested driving over after lunch spending an afternoon playing with grandparents cousins etc and an early evening meal. I got a text on Christmas day saying that due to some relatives not coming evening meal was now late lunch and could we come earlier. This was despite several emails between me both Sils and MIL making plans. We went at the time arranged previously which was just before time food was being served.

DS was very good sitting in a high chair during the long meal and then played quite nicely with their DC imo. Their was a fair amount of MINE when playing with toys, he didn't want to share toys that he was already playing with. Of course the toys belonged to their DC but DS can't differentiate between the Lego at home and a cousins. Neither child was crying or tantrumming
I was saying things like share nicely but of course he didn't like seeing something he had just done being knocked over. Sil said several times. They are not your toys they are DN' s toys. Then they were very sweet sitting at a little table having a tea party, DS giving DN cups and pieces of cake etc. Then they each had a soft ball sitting at the table. DS loves pairs of things and we play snap. He was pushing his ball to the middle of the table towards DN's ball and saying 'snap' . When DN didn't respond he leaned over further and banged his ball against theirs two or 3 times. Sil said stop that it isn't nice and when I said he's trying to play snap she said 'he had a mean look on his face' . I said nothing but took the ball away and starting playing something else. There were other minor irritations such as SOL give giving DN a biscuit and not DS. He saw and said me wan bic bic. She ignored and then he said me bic bic in my mouth and she still ignored. In the past she has made comments about how boisterous DS is and it annoys me that the differences between the two children are made out to be that DS is anything other than an average 2 year old.

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Loopytiles · 27/12/2013 16:47

Why mention your DN's possible SN?!

As for "the extended family" being worried about DN six months ago, and SIL/BIL being "reluctant to involve health professionals", sounds like interference!

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olympicsrock · 27/12/2013 17:20

You can't give one toddler a treat right in front of another one without them wanting one too . I usually check with the other mum first. Sil got two out of the packet said DN do you want a biscuit, put the packet back in the cupboard gave DN one and the other straight in her own mouth. DS picked at bits of Christmas dinner. Sil then made pasta for DN for tea without offering any to ds. Biscuit was for pudding. I found this odd. I had even brought breaded chicken pieces for DS tea plenty for 2. This remained in the fridge.

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friday16 · 27/12/2013 17:26

Since "AIBU? My SIL gave my two year old a biscuit but it's a sugary snack I don't allow" is hardly a rare MN complaint, the SIL can't win, can she?

Snowdown · 27/12/2013 17:28

It's bad manners to give a dc a biscuit and not offer the other dc a biscuit - I don't know what planet you all live in. If a visiting child wasn't allowed biscuits then I'd supply an alternative - yoghurt or fruit and then if needed we'd have the biscuit treat later.

Goldenbear · 27/12/2013 17:29

zzzzz, it is not even definitive that this 21 month old has any problems. As I said previously, my DN is DD but this has only been established in the last 6 months and he's 4.5 yrs! Before this time my brother and SIL were not able to get any answers as he was too young. Amongst all 6 boys in my NCT group, one didn't walk until 20 months, my own DS didn't say more than 4 words before he was 2 and 3 months and my friends DS was the same. My DS is 6.5 and on top table for maths, writing, very good reader. The other child who didn't talk early is exceptionally bright! Given that it is very difficult to ascertain DD at 21 months, unless it was very extreme, the scenarios the OP described are just two toddlers misunderstanding each other, not liking each other - all very normal. It is NOT normal to reduce yourself, as an adult, to toddler behaviour and act like the the SIL did.

I really DO think you're not doing your DC's any favours by behaving in this way. It will limit them in their older life to be so sensitive. I recently went to a party where all the children come from incredibly privileged backgrounds. I couldn't believe the aggressive, competitive nature that most of these children had- like their parents they will no doubt dominate all the highly paid positions or jobs that require someone to exude confidence. My son goes to a state school and was taken aback by their outlook. He's not even sensitive but he'll be competing with these children in the future for jobs. How an earth is he going to feel like the world is his oyster if he takes offence at every little thing? This is what I think it really is a disservice to your child to behave like the OP's SIL!

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olympicsrock · 27/12/2013 17:34

Frusso - yes please :-))

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stgeorgiaandthedragon · 27/12/2013 17:38

I would everlong. I wouldn't assume the parent(s) were ok with it, and I wouldn't be happy if a friend or relative gave my child sugary snacks after having a presumably big meal.

ThurlHoHoHow · 27/12/2013 17:41

I have a friend who gives her DC a biscuit but not my DD when we're at her house. I think it's exceptionally rude. I nearly started an AIBU about it a while ago but didn't as I thought it would be unanimous. Apparently not though!

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Goldenbear · 27/12/2013 17:44

Yes it would appear odd, rude and like someone was making a point in a passive aggressive way.

Zzzzz, what's with this swooping down to save your 21 month old from the nasty 2 year old stuff. Do you know how a 2 year old behaves? That is not much older. Maybe the OP felt like her toddler was being bullied and needed comforting considering how the SIL behaved. My own DD is 2 and 9 months and is shy and believe me is sometimes scared of the behaviour of some slightly younger children at playgroups as they are more boisterous, loud and possessive of toys for instance. It is not always the case that younger child equals more vulnerable child unless you're talking about a baby who doesn't move and a toddler for instance!

oldbaghere · 27/12/2013 17:45

How about you do the christmas family party next year and then you can organise it all how you like?

And you really don't sound like you like your SIL at all. I'd suggest you give each other a wide berth.

stgeorgiaandthedragon · 27/12/2013 17:51

I don't know everlong to be honest! I'd worry that if I said 'is it ok' the parent would be annoyed, and have to deal with pestering.

I don't think it's that big a deal really!

oldbaghere · 27/12/2013 17:52

I wonder if the OP has previously told the SIL she doesn't want her child to have apple juice/squash/biscuit/sweets? I'd bet a pound to a penny she has

TikkaTurkey · 27/12/2013 17:53

Sil then made pasta for DN for tea without offering any to ds. Biscuit was for pudding. I found this odd. I had even brought breaded chicken pieces for DS tea plenty for 2. This remained in the fridge.

This wasn't even in your original post. You're just adding more and more bits as the thread goes on, and it's getting confusing.
Why had you brought your own food when you were supposed to be over visiting for the day?
When you handed her the chicken pieces, maybe she took that as you didn't want her food?!
Giving her chicken for your ds isn't the actions of someone who wants to be eating their pasta for tea!
Maybe she thought "well she's not going to want her ds to have any pasta, so no point in making any?!

friday16 · 27/12/2013 18:00

This whole thread summarised:

"I'm a better parent than my sister-in-law. Everything would be better if only she were more like me."

hazeyjane · 27/12/2013 18:01

Goldenbear, I can't imagine wanting to aspire to the competitive and aggressive for my dcs, it is not something I have ever aspired to myself.

As for the developmental delays, I doubt a paed would have identified a developmental delay if there wasn't one, my ds was diagnosed as having global developmental delay (ie in all areas) at 7 months. The fact that it is global means they may well be investigating further, in which case the sil would be feeling extremely worried for her child.

When talking about the 'maturity' of the op's ds, you have to take into account that her nephew has delays.

Op, it does sound as though the stuff with your children is a MacGuffin, and the real issue is your relationship with your sil.

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