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.. to be shocked at the hardcore nature of the hits when you google porn

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ElenorRigby · 05/12/2013 11:46

Try it, type porn into google.

I had no idea you could access porn so easily, there's tons of it and its really nasty too.

Seriously I thought you had to pay and download this stuff!

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SilverApples · 05/12/2013 11:50

So why google porn?
You can't have been unaware of the discussions about the ease of accessing porn, particularly for teenagers. Did you imagine that they were doing Pay for Viewing? Confused
There's a lot of very strong stuff out there, all free and available to anyone with the internet.

SPsWantsCliffInHerStocking · 05/12/2013 11:51

Well when you google things you tend to get them.

RelaxingWithUncertainty · 05/12/2013 11:51

YANBU - see stoppornculture.org/.

rpitchfo · 05/12/2013 11:52

YABU in the sense that it's very common knowledge that the internet is essentially 98% pornography. The rest is the bbc news website, wikipedia and a couple of forums.

valiumredhead · 05/12/2013 11:52

It's revolting. I would fully back the 'opt in' suggestion for porn. No wonder so many kids have stumbled across it.

Ds was told to google 'mediaeval torture equipment' for homework-bloody hellHmm

THECliffRichardSucksEggsinHell · 05/12/2013 11:53

Yes it is easy to see pornographic images and even videos which is why it's so important to protect kids from this damaging stuff.

But really, did you not already know this? Have you not seen any of the campaigns that have featured in the news and printed media about online porn?

Where have you been?

OHforDUCKSchristmascake · 05/12/2013 11:53

98% pornography?!

I dont believe that?!

SilverApples · 05/12/2013 11:55

If you always had to pay for it, most teenagers would be unable to do so, as few have credit cards.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 05/12/2013 11:55

Well when you google things you tend to get them

This. ^^

What did you think you would find by googling porn??

SantaIKnowHimIKnowHim · 05/12/2013 11:57

Well, if you actively go looking for it via typing it into google, what did you expect to find?! Confused
As for the pp who said about having to google stuff for homework - put strict safe search settings onto google. It filters out inappropriate and graphic results.

tedmundo · 05/12/2013 11:57

Hi, if you have children I strongly advise you attend an internet safety course. Our school frequently runs them. It is imperative you understand search engines and internet safety if your children have access to a PC / tablet.

I am astounded you didn't know that google would return hits you describe if you searched the word porn.

For some topics, ignorance is not bliss!

ThurlHoHoHow · 05/12/2013 11:57

What did you expect to find? Confused

ZillionChocolate · 05/12/2013 11:58

No shit Sherlock!

GodRestTEEMerryGenTEEmen · 05/12/2013 11:59

Wow! You Googled porn and found porn!

What a revelation!!!!

Why else would it be a problem for our kids if it wasn't easy to find?

You are a bit naive.

Binkyridesagain · 05/12/2013 12:02

You don't even have to google 'porn' to find it.

friday16 · 05/12/2013 12:02

I would fully back the 'opt in' suggestion for porn.

Would that block, or not block, a search like

encrypted.google.com/#q=anal+sex+site:.mumsnet.com

Block it, and everyone who uses Mumsnet (quite a few of whom are parents of young children) would need to opt in.

Don't block it, and your claim to be filtering material harmful for children looks a bit threadbare.

What about

www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/3050.aspx?CategoryID=118

Do you think that should be blocked? Blocking pages on www.nhs.uk is unlikely to end well, and it's unlikely many people would not opt out of that once the consequences became apparent. Not blocking detailed descriptions of anal sex is likely to get the Daily Mail upset.

What about

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Luxury-Stainless-Steel-Adjustable-Locking-Female-Chastity-Belt/281148911330

A blocking system that manages to keep up with every sale posted on EBay is going to be a bit hard to do, isn't it? Probably easier to just block EBay. How many people are going to be happy with that? No naughty words on that web page, either.

And so on, and so on, and so on.

The chances of being able to produce a filtering solution that (a) "keeps children safe" and (b) doesn't piss adults off enough that they'll turn it off are approximately zero. The idea of doing it at the network level is just laughable: houses contain multiple computers, with multiple users, and the blocking in the network cannot tell them apart. It's political posturing, and can't (in general) work.

ElenorRigby · 05/12/2013 12:03

No I didnt know this.

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friday16 · 05/12/2013 12:05

If you always had to pay for it, most teenagers would be unable to do so, as few have credit cards.

And if wishes were horses, we'd none of us walk.

There is no way to get to this position without cutting the UK off from the global internet, something China and Iran only do half-heartedly. So speculating as to the effectiveness of the process (let me point out that most child bank accounts now have debit cards, that cash-pay debit cards are available from petrol stations, and that defining "it" would be virtually impossible: would "porn" include the Daily Mail sidebar of shame, for example?) is pointless.

Binkyridesagain · 05/12/2013 12:07

My DH blocked the word porn on our internet access, which pissed me off as I couldn't read a lot of the threads on here.

ElenorRigby · 05/12/2013 12:09

MY DD is 11 but look much older and recently Ive been looking at CEOP on you tube to help her arm herself as it were.
As I dont look at porn I had no fucking idea you view this shit so easily.

I've also found a Channel 4 documentary Porn on the Brain
Shocking stuff

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SilverApples · 05/12/2013 12:10

Sorry Friday, I wasn't suggesting that porn should be PAYG, just trying to make the point that it has been seen as a huge problem re teenagers for a number of years now, a hot topic of debate in most media.
And most 13 and 14 year olds have no source of independent income, so of course the porn they are viewing is the free stuff, readily available.

worldgonecrazy · 05/12/2013 12:10

I think some posters are being a little bit harsh on the OP.

When the internet was in its infancy, any porn sites usually required a credit card to gain access to the more hardcore stuff. I think a lot of parents are really unaware of just how much extreme hardcore porn is out there, some think it's just the "tits and arses" that was in magazines back in the 70s/80s.

Now anyone can access free extreme hardcore porn just by clicking a button to say that what they are viewing is legal in the country they are viewing from, and that they are over 18. So anal rape, BDSM, bestiality, gang bangs, rough sex, all in close up graphic detail, are available freely for anyone who knows a few key search terms. All free, and all viewable by your child if you don't have enough filters in place.

The only way to stop your child viewing these images is to have the computer in your living room, but then they can always access these images on phones, ipads, or get them shared by friends whose parents are less computer savvy or don't care.

That's why it is important to have several conversations with your child about how unrealistic porn is compared to "real life" sex.

friday16 · 05/12/2013 12:12

And most 13 and 14 year olds have no source of independent income

www.mindfulmoney.co.uk/financial-planning/pocket-money-averaging-5-75-a-week/

SilverApples · 05/12/2013 12:14

No I didnt know this.

I'm over 50. Hmm
How have you managed to stay so uninformed?

ElenorRigby · 05/12/2013 12:15

Thanks worldgonecrazy. Smile

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