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aibu to dislike my child and hate mums who love theirs so much?

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jigsawlady · 04/12/2013 17:29

Ive got an 8 week old baby and I dont feel like im suffering from pnd as im not sad im just disinterested in my baby but I am starting to feel awful everytime I look on fb at other new mums putting statuses saying how much they love their baby and how they are the best present they could ever get for xmas, etc.

I hate my baby most of the time. She isnt particularly bad (doesn't suffer from collic, only wakes once during the night) ive got a really supportive partner he gets up wt every night feed then lets me sleep while he puts her back to bed.

Im not evil I do care about her and feel anxious if she seems upset or uncomfortable but I dont seem to care as much as dp when shes being cute and he's cooing over her.

Most of the time I wish I'd never suggested having a baby so that our lives could go back to how they were.

Am I being a bitch and selfish?? Should I be loving my baby more or are these women on fb lying about how easy and wonderful they are finding motherhood??

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Quangle · 05/12/2013 22:18

ha ha ha ha "enjoy it while it lasts" ha ha ha ha oooh my aching sides Grin

Oh and my other favourite: "sleep when the baby sleeps". Well a) she doesn't and b) I'm totally wired with exhaustion and actually can't sleep because I'm on edge thinking that I'll just drop off and the baby will wake up again and that will be worse than if I'd never gone to sleep and c) it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I am a grown adult and I don't want a nap like an old lady and I'd really like to have a life and I haven't got a life and my life is ruined and is it all really over???

and breathe....

6 years on OP and nothing for me has ever been as tough since. I do hope you are taking heart from the stories on here. Long story short there is nothing abnormal in what you are going through. You may have PND - you may not. Either way it's normal to feel everything you are feeling but you will get through it. Very best wishes to you.

JadziaSnax · 05/12/2013 22:30

It took months to bond with DS and I hid it for ages. I felt exactly how you describe, detached and uninterested but with odd days of absolutely adoring him. I was diagnosed with PND and recovered really well with ADs & talking therapies. Once I was on the mend, the bond did develop really quickly.

Please speak to your HV or GP. They've seen it all before and can help. Good luck.

Loca21 · 05/12/2013 22:31

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foreverondiet · 05/12/2013 22:52

I haven't read the whole thread but it took me a while to bond with my 2nd child. Which confused me as I bonded with my 1st (and 3rd child) much more easily.

I think talk to GP but I think sometimes it just takes time to bond.

breatheslowly · 05/12/2013 22:53

Loca RTFT.

AnnieJanuary · 05/12/2013 23:12

I was tired, and that made me depressed, but as for the kids no, I'd have died for them. The love was intoxicating (which is probably just another extreme hormonal reaction - it kept me awake at night worrying about them, and I could have done without that).

I think you really, really need to speak to someone. To say "I am tired, a little sad and I think bonding takes time" is one thing, to say "I hate my baby" is something else. You need rest and you need a bit of help to get back on your feet.

Bellini28 · 06/12/2013 05:25

Some wonderful support on here. Well done ladies.
OP please read Life after birth by Kate Figes. If you have kindle order it immediately. Reading this helped me tremendously when I had DD1. I found it a great comfort actually.

And just to echo everyone else. It does pass. I promise you.

Take care and be kind to yourself. xx

Bellini28 · 06/12/2013 05:30

Oh and Loca. Go do one if that is your contribution!

JakeBullet · 06/12/2013 09:09

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SugarHut · 06/12/2013 11:15

OP... please do something about this. I don't mean to be the harbinger of doom, but all this "you won't feel like this forever" is crap (to me anyway)

I never bonded with DS. One bit. Felt like the daughter I should have always had was replaced by a son that I was never supposed to have. 5 years later I had not improved. 5 years. I went through the motions, learnt to be a wonderful actress as a text book loving mother.

He's 5 and a half now. And we are slowly turning a corner. Like you, I never hated him, I just never really "anything-ed" him. My first step was coming on here and just pouring everything out. Which was an enormous help. Posters privately messaged me with help and suggestions, a couple of which I have followed through with, and we are starting to see genuine glimmers of improvement. Which is huge.

I just wish to the bottom of my heart that I had done this sooner. I was so ashamed about what a bad person I must be, that I said nothing and put on a wonderful show, but inside I was empty of anything towards him. If I had spoken up when he was 5 months, then maybe by 5yrs I might have started to feel like he was mine. Keeping quiet for 5yrs, I now hope to feel like a "normal" mother does maybe by the time he is 7-8? I think that's realistic.

If you want to speak about it at all, any time, from someone who god knows understands how it feels, please PM me.

Sugar x x x

kitstwins · 06/12/2013 11:57

I've come late to this. You've had some very good advice so I'm really just reiterating. But your post resonated with me. I had twins seven years ago and was incredibly excited and over the moon about it all (on the back of fertility treatment and thinking we might never have a baby). So whilst those babies were growing inside me I felt strong love for them - I vividly remember staring at my bump just feeling total love for these two unknown beings inside me.

I then had a very complicated final trimester, a disastrous birth followed by a shitty first week in hospital I remember on the day of their birth when I came round from the GA (in searing agony) being shown my two babies and feeling nothing. It felt as if my life was a car that was driving off the road and there was nothing I could do about it. I couldn't understand why I felt nothing but horror at the whole situation and little more than curiosity about my babies. I certainly didn't love them, although I went through the motions in front of the midwives and my husband and relatives.

And when we got home it was no better. I was in total bodyshock and really the crying and relentless feeding of and caring for two tiny newborns was overwhelming. I wanted to hide in a dark room for a week and recover but I couldn't. Everyone was expecting me to be having a lovely time and love my babies and I wasn't doing any of that - and it TERRIFIED ME. On so many counts. Why wasn't I feeling what everyone else was clearly feeling? Would someone come and take my babies away from me and give them to someone who could love them? Would I ever love them? Where was that immediate rush of love that everyone had spouted about? And all the while I felt I was being watched to check I was grateful for my miracle babies, happy with boundless love.

In all of this I functioned brilliantly. I had no problem getting out of bed and having a shower and getting dressed. The house was tidy and I was efficient and organised at expressing and making bottles and putting a wash on. Those were the easy things, the things I felt I COULD do and I threw myself into them. They were also a projection of coping - to show the world I was 'happy' and on top of it. Not for me, the sad lady crying in her dressing gown. You can be immaculately dressed to face the world and crying inside. My babies were beautifully cared for and covered in kisses and given lots of hugs but there was no connection to the heart of me inside. It felt devastating.

I had PND. Or in my case, PTSD that was under the umbrella term of PND. It was complex and a 'depression' that was entirely mine, as all PND is I think. No two are alike, which is why it can be hard to diagnose and hard to 'fit' to oneself. I had it for a year, during which I went through the motions and looked after my daughters so well. But inside me I was disconnected and not myself and desperate to make those connections real again. I wanted to be me again but I just didn't know how to do it. In the end, their first birthday was the saving of me as it brought all the tension and sadness to a head and I had a mini breakdown and admitted, finally, to my husband how I felt. It was the first step that I had needed to take.

I saw my GP and had CBT and also spoke to people about how I was feeling. Anti depressants weren't for me as I felt my PTSD was about what had happened to me rather than a hormonal shift/slide into depression, and therefore it was about understanding my feelings rather than medicating, but I'd have been happy to have gone on them a month or so down the line if things hadn't improved.

They did improve. One day I realised I was 'me' again and that I loved my daughters passionately. And I do love my daughters beyond all end. My love for them is intense and all the way through me and I have never loved anyone more. Maybe part of that is because my love for them felt so hard-won. Perhaps. All I know is that I wish I'd sought help from my GP sooner. I didn't need to be sad for a year.

I don't know if you have PND but I would say you would benefit from some support in sorting out your feelings and your GP will be able to help with this. Perhaps, PND or not, your post today can be your first step. From experience, it's the most important one. You will be okay. You will love. It will be okay.

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kitstwins · 06/12/2013 16:05

Exactly that laqueen. The absolute despair inside. And the show you put on to convince the world that everything is okay. As if happiness could and is measured by a tidy house and a perfect kitchen and clean babies in ironed babygros.

And people might disagree but I think there is an external pressure not to be the mother who 'caves' to PND. That being the mother 'who had twins and got really bad PND' was not someone I felt I could be after all the IVF and fertility traumas and my perfect, organised life. I felt people expected and needed me to be the woman who picked herself up off the floor and got on with it and enjoyed it and loved it. And to my shame and despair that just didn't happen for me. And I couldn't understand why. It was if on the day of their birth a switch didn't flick for me. And, try as I might, I couldn't get it to flick on.

PND was not a good thing for me but good things have come from it. I love my daughters more fiercely than I might otherwise have (I believe that - because it was so hard won) and I'm sure I'm more empathetic. I admire all mothers who do their best, but I have a huge amount of admiration for any mother who admits that all is not well. It is a very hard thing to do and, for a year, I couldn't do it. Look at how many on this post alone who have admitted to similar feelings to the OP. And yet I bet 'on paper' and when we were all going through it we were all doing our utmost to smile through it and pretend all was well.

drbonnieblossman · 06/12/2013 16:21

This too shall pass, OP.

Hang in there.

(And remember, that those mums posting on facebook - some will be feeling as God awful as you right now, but are going through the motions, because they feel it's what's expected.)

get yourself to the doctor and have a chat.

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