To be totally pissed off with some doctors sweeping statement about diabetes

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I am listening to Jeremy Vine and just heard a Doc state that Type 2 Diabetes is totally avoidable. I am sick and tired of people assuming that if you are type 2 that you stuff yourself with pies and cakes, lazy and brought this on yourself. I am none of the above and not overweight but am very active unfortunately I am type 2. I am fuming. AIBU to thia this doctor is a twat and should think before he speaks

I'm type 1. If I eat a meal with no carbs I don't have to do an injection before I eat. Shame I love carbs much easier to control if you low carb though.

When I was first diagnosed 14 years ago advice was high carbs and carby snacks in between meals

There are lots of factors that can trigger diabetes and weight is just one of them. Genetics play a huge part, gender, age and ethnicity also influence risk as well as other health conditions and hell even being breast fed apparently.
Weight management and a healthy lifestyle is always to be encouraged but I don't believe type 2 can be prevented in the majority of cases and its overly simplistic to suggest weight is the be all and end all in diabetes. Its simply not preventable for a lot of people and its just damn bad luck.

I agree with the other comments that a lot of the NHS guidance on the subject is shockingly bad.

Shame that people with experience with Diabetes whether it be with having the condition or a family member afflicted seem to have more knowledge on the subject than some ass on Radio 2, just spreading the myth that Type 2 is caused by being a fate lazy pig Patronizing git

The One Show had a doctor on recently saying that 'diabetes' was preventable. She didn't specify which one and when questioned said that even Type 1 diabetes is avoidable. Can't remember her name but I seem to think she is also a regular on Jeremy Vine.

If these people are experts, god help the patients.

judy It was a bloke today, did not catch his name

Yes, Type 1 can be avoided. Lets just tell the pancreas that it has to start producing insulin, shall we (in one of those moods)

monkeywrench I know! Her reasoning was that as instances of Type 1 are less the nearer you get to the Equator, therefore all you have to do is move to one of the equatorial countries to 'prevent' it. As you do

If only I'd known that before having my daughter, who subsequently developed Type 1, perhaps I could have 'prevented' it. However, I shall know for next time

judy now remember for the next time that you need to move to an equtorial country

It's a really stupid thing to say. I have a family history of type 2 diabetes and not many people in my family are overweight so it clearly isn't totally avoidable for everyone.

YANBU, my great uncle was thin as a rake and had type 2.

YANBU - it is like the sweeping statements about certain cancers being totally avoidable. Boils my piss.

Blossom stone no type 2 actually. And what makes you think it is incredibly rare? I think stone meant it is rare for a man or woman of thirty five+ to get type 1 at a much older ager and this is why it is sometimes called childhood diabetes (type1) as it is much more common for children to get type 1 and adults to get type 2.

I think Hally Berry, Tom Hanks, Sharon Stone have type 2

Weight is the biggest problem though for increasing your risk of type 2 but it is not the only problem and not the only life style change that can decrease the problem

judy - but if there are less cases of type 1 near the equator then it needs to be looked at what they are doing differently or what is happening that it is being avoided so that surely we could possibly replicate those same conditions and help prevent children getting type1, hopefully then in the future it could be prevented

ivy of course it needs to be looked at, but that doesn't change the fact that at the moment, Type 1 is UNpreventable. There are many theories floating about as to what causes it but none have been proven yet and many of them have come to nothing.

Whilst the majority of type 2's are overweight (about 80% IIRC) that leaves a reasonable proportion of 20% who are not.

People who are overweight can have healthy diets & good levels of physical activity, as can those of "normal" weight.

judy looking at the theories and seeing whether my lifestyle could replicate anything safely would be something I would do, no need to wait for proof if I thought it would prevent something happening and would not have an adverse effect

Type 1 isn't preventable anymore than other autoimmune diseases are. There is some evidence to suggest it can be triggered by viral infections in some children (my brother got type 1 after having glandular fever) but I'm not sure how you would ever prevent such things.

Breastfeeding is meant to help prevent it to a degree apparently (for the child not the mother) which may be why there is less incidence of it in countries near the equator but there is enough debate about the bf issue without piling on the guilt for another reason imo.

Is that so ivy ? There are no other type 1's in my family apart from my daughter, so should I have done some research into the prevention of it before she was born just in case? And does that apply for all the other diseases that my kids might develop? My son doesn't have it by the way, and we don't live anywhere near the equator

Oh, and they were both breastfed.

Type 1 is an autoimmune disease, isn't it, and some autoimmune diseases are less prevalent where there is more sunlight during the year. But I can't see how you could used this to prevent getting type one in the first place, unless prenatally you insisted your parents moved south.

abra1d you said what I wanted to say, but much better

judy - if it was me having another child I would do as much research as possible to have some idea if there was something I could do that may help. standing and shouting I can't move to the equator is silly when it may be something else about the conditions and I want to know what they are that seem to diminish people having autoimmune disease as if it is partly genetic and partly the environment and I can stop my dc getting a genetic autoimmune disease - then I will do my best to help prevent it.

I didn't think there were any autoimmune disease in my family, but a bit of digging around and a couple of death certificate proved me wrong and I was very surprised

ivy hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

As I said before, there was no indication of any kind of diabetes in our family, if I had known we would be living near the the fucking equator to this day.

in the nicest possible way you are not getting the point I am trying to make - sorry its nothing to do with hindsight or the equator

Anyone know what effect breastfeeding has on insulin resistance/blood glucose spikes?

I had GD, kept it under control through low carbing but following the birth have to go for a fasting glucose test soon to see if I am now type 2 or whether it has properly gone.

Sleep or lack thereof always affected my readings. Always high if not slept properly. Always low following a rest.
Exercise - always lower.
Does bf have any effect? asks hopefully

And in the nicest possible way ivy neither are you.

As there are no other cases of diabetes in my family, immediate or otherwise, I had no reason to think my DD was at risk. So how exactly do you suggest I could've prevented it? In that situation what would you have done, I'm intrigued now.