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To expect my boyfriend to realise his wife is a gold digger and vindictive person?

409 replies

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 20:15

Background: my boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years, having been friends for some time before that. We have a large age difference but have an incredible bond and are best friends. He has been separated from his wife for 4 years but they still live in the same house (they don't have sex). I live in London and she lives in Italy - he commutes, spending the week with me in the UK and the weekends with his children.

She has had multiple affairs openly and manipulates him unbearably (she has threatened to stop him seeing his children). He financially supports her (as well as her sister and brother). I find her behaviour disgusting, she only speaks to him when she wants money or a new car and refuses to do anything for him or the household (she is a sahm) - including disciplining the children, cooking, cleaning or food shopping. He does all these when he gets back after a week working in the UK. I try hard not to constantly be horrible about her, but it is hard to see the man I love being taken advantage of so viciously. I know they are not going to divorce (for the sake of their children) but I really can't see how this is a good alternative. He admits that she is awful and has got very angry about some of the things she has done (notably bringing her boyfriend to their family home to spend the night when his children were there), but he is incapable of doing anything about it and has aided her boyfriend's business and bought her property. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to tell her about me, stand up for himself and stop being a coward as well as getting divorce proceedings under way?

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Pearlsaplenty · 24/11/2013 22:26

How long does he say he needs to keep the separation a secret from the kids? When will they be old enough?

Only1scoop · 24/11/2013 22:27

....Thought his dc would be far younger....just incorrect perception on my part....

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 24/11/2013 22:27

I expect he is shagging at least one of your "friends" that have now seen the light and think he is Mr Wonderful.

travellingbird · 24/11/2013 22:27

Ilovea - bear in mind that MN has been crashing lots tonight. Her lack of response might just be her giving up in trying to reply!

tethersend · 24/11/2013 22:28

Well I think it's disgusting that fictional Italians are allowed to get away with this sort of thing.

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 22:30

I wonder whether he blow dries his hair like so many European men do?

To my shame, I had a boyfriend who did this.

ILoveAFullFridge · 24/11/2013 22:30

No, I don't think so. She has responded to some statements but not to others. Also the lack of emotional response.

(I noticed the off-lining - my post appeared ages after I wrote it, and she had finally made a half-convincing response.)

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 22:33

like this

I do think Italian men age better than say, German men.

NicknameIncomplete · 24/11/2013 22:33

Teenagers?!!!!

Seriously you cant see what is wrong with this whole situation.

He doesnt want to leave his wife coz he wont be allowed to see his kids. They are teenagers ffs.

Only1scoop · 24/11/2013 22:35

Madam Grin

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 22:37

Of course I thank all of you (even the scary people Smile). Tbh i know I have a lot to think about, especially the why she gets to be open and I don't, but my intention of posting on here was regarding whether to be open about my opinions of her as a manipulative scammer - this is not based on what he has told me, rather what I have read and seen from Facebook and emails. Responding to quite a few comments above:

A) no I don't speak Italian but his is not amazing so they converse in English
B) he has never called her relationships 'affairs', I have
C) as I said before, I don't expect or want him to spend Christmas with me as I firmly believe he should be with his kids
D) he has never said that she couldn't have a relationship and he is absolutely fine with it, it is me who thinks it is inappropriate to do it openly in front of their children.
E) no I don't want children with him but I want him to be happy for his sake

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gobbynorthernbird · 24/11/2013 22:39

I don't want him to leave her for me
Good. Because he wont.

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 22:40

this is more like it

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 22:40

Sorry for not responding, MN kept crashing and I went to have a bath!

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ITCouldBeWorse · 24/11/2013 22:41

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CuttedUpPear · 24/11/2013 22:41

If you're accepted then why aren't you going there for weekends with him?

My DP has a Spanish ex wife. While they were still married I was invited to the house as his GF, saw her socially and she knew who I was. We had been together 2 years before they divorced (they were separated 2 years before we got together).

DP does go and stay at the house sometimes to look after his DCs but his XW goes to stay at her BF's on those weekends.

I actually stayed there without XP last summer, when I flew the DCs home for him.

What I am saying is, no ones going to give you a prize for being understanding - demand to travel to Italy with him. Don't accept excuses. Or get out.

LisaMed · 24/11/2013 22:42

He's slated his wife for being after money and a lazy SAHM. It will make sure you never ask for money or ask him to do anything domestic because that will make you like her

And if he has never slated his wife, even subtly, for the above, why have you latched on to it?

You sound nice enough to get a man of your own.

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 24/11/2013 22:43

Have a really, really good think about who is the "manipulative scammer" here

Clue: it's not his wife

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 22:43

Love. They are not kids. They are teenagers. Only a few years younger than you.

Why would you think a woman who is separated from her husband can't have a relationship with another man which her children know about?

Is English your first language? Is it his? I am just sensing a real disconnect here and it might be about language.

TheBookofRuth · 24/11/2013 22:43

This is all bollocks, surely? No one with the basic intelligence to breath in and out with a reminder would believe the load of cliched old cobblers the OP has apparently swallowed hook, line and sinker.

SeaSickSal · 24/11/2013 22:43

So you're pulling moral rank on a woman who's husband you are fucking?

Inappropriate. Lol. You are a funny.

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 22:45

ILoveA: I'm sorry I didn't respond to your post, it really wasn't intentional. Of course I have an emotional response but I'm not really sure what I've said that reflects I don't. As I said previously, my question for here was more whether or not I should tell him that I think she's awful and he should file for divorce rather than whether I should be with him Smile

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Alisvolatpropiis · 24/11/2013 22:45

OP - the age gap isn't the relevant thing here.

My dp is older than me,not insignificantly so in terms of years. I am the same age as you bar a few months.

You are getting mugged off spectacularly here.

If you were my friend in real life I'd be telling you to wake the fuck up.

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 22:46

Darling, he has made you think she is awful. He will be delighted.
He won't be so delighted if he has to divorce her and split all the assets 50/50.

travellingbird · 24/11/2013 22:49

What have your friends said to you NMC? Do you think any of them will agree with the general response here?