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To withdraw DD from being weighed at school?

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SeaDevilscanPlay · 21/11/2013 16:08

DH thinks I am making a big fuss about nothing.

I refused consent for DD to be weighed at school as I don't think its neccesary. I didn't make a fuss, just ticked the box saying that I did not give consent.

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SatinSandals · 24/11/2013 09:12

But would parents have known to opt you out? They wouldn't at my school.

Bunbaker · 24/11/2013 09:25

"Weighing was a complete non event and no one discussed it or gave it a thought, unlike today where it is such a huge issue that parents have to have a letter and then draw attention to their child by not letting them take part."

I agree. We make such a big deal out of so many things these days. I don't ever remember being weighed at school, but I'm sure I was.

Snowbility · 24/11/2013 09:35

I don't see the need to weigh my dcs - it's not a big deal.

Bunbaker · 24/11/2013 09:46

I don't see the need not to either if it isn't a big deal Grin

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CogsworthAndJerry · 24/11/2013 10:52

You see, I had forgotten about eye tests at school until it was brought up in this thread. It was just such a non-issue. I have now remembered an incident in junior school when we had eye tests and I was referred to an optician. There was a couple of people who this happened to.

I do remember being weighed, but I can't remember a big deal being made out of it.

CogsworthAndJerry · 24/11/2013 11:28

A 5-year-old who weighs 5 stone? Hmm Sorry but that sounds very overweight to me. The fact that you say she isn't a skinny minny is a good indication - kids are meant to be skinny! You should be able to see a child's ribs, if you can't and they aren't skinny that's actually a good indication that they're overweight.

I weighed about 5 stone when I was about 10 or 11. I remember this because I remember being weighed for a Maths lesson in Year 6 and that's how much I weighed. Looking at photos of myself from around that time, I was thin but not unhealthily or unusually so. Just in the normal way that kids should be before they hit puberty. And no, I wasn't a midget neither. I can't remember what I weighed I when I was five but it was no doubt significantly less than five stone. Even now as an adult, I still only weigh about just over 8 stone. Well I did at my last pill check last year before getting pregnant but I get weighed at every pill check and my weight always hovers between 8 and 8 and a half stone.

Seriously, how can a five year old weigh five stone but not be overweight?

I think part of the problem is that a lot of parents seem to think that having an overweight child is seen as an attack on their parenting skills. A lot of people seem to think that only bad irresponsible parents have overweight children therefore if their child is overweight and a medical professional points it out to them that automatically means they are attacking their parenting and implying that they are an irresponsible parent. So they would rather stick their head in the sand and ignore the issue.

The thing is, it's not only irresponsible parents who have overweight children. There's a lot of misinformation out there about what a healthy diet actually is. Food that is advertised as healthy often isn't however people buy into it and may think that they are feeding their child a healthy diet but in reality aren't. As I've mentioned before about breakfast cereal, a lot of people think that they are a healthy breakfast, particularly ones that are marketed as being so, such as Special K. In reality they're actually processed shit, low on nutrients and packed full of sugar. Including those so called healthy cereals including Special K. I remember reading somewhere that Special K has more sugar in than Coco Pops. You wouldn't think so by watching the adverts for it. I've mentioned before about reading an article about a mother who was furious her son had been labelled overweight and she went on to say that he has a healthy diet and always has a healthy breakfast of Special K in the morning and never has eggs Hmm. I'm sure she thinks that is a healthy breakfast but it's not.

Don't get me started on the fat is evil brigade and eating low fat is the way to go...So they feed their children low fat but high sugar foods instead...but they think this is healthy because they've being led to believe it is.

Then there's the issue of portion control. You could feed your DC's the most healthy diet in the world but if they are eating too much of it they will likely end up overweight. Portions have got bigger so it's easy to overfeed your DC without meaning to. None of this is a reflection of your parenting skills so am not sure why anyone would feel like a bad parent for being told their child was overweight. It's not about you and your feelings anymore. Personally, if a health care provider told me my child was obese I would actually do something about it. I certainly wouldn't stick my fingers in my ears and pretend I know best. Again, it wouldn't be about me and my feelings.

Unfortunately there are a lot of parents who are in denial that their child is overweight.

SunshineMMum · 24/11/2013 12:15

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CogsworthAndJerry · 24/11/2013 12:20

No, it doesn't contradict itself.

SunshineMMum · 24/11/2013 12:25

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mumof3sons · 24/11/2013 12:26

I don't think yabu

Snowbility · 24/11/2013 12:36

My dsis has 3 kids - one skinny, one athletic and muscular and one she describes as "born hungry" and no surprise he's overweight. They are all active, take part in sports and walk to school. What should she do without drawing attention to his weight - he's hungry, he wants more food - what do you tell a hungry child every time they plead for food - it's not about sweets and treats it's about normal food and a large appetite - I think this problem is trickier that just move more/eat less .....the chances of introducing a weight/food complex at a young age is pretty likely.

CogsworthAndJerry · 24/11/2013 12:38

Sorry, still not seeing the contradiction.

Having an overweight child certainly doesn't reflect parenting skills, although a lot of people seem to think it does. I was pointing out that there seem to be a common misconception that only irresponsible parents have fat children but that is not true. Especially nowadays when there's so much misinformation regarding what a healthy diet is, what adequate portion sizes are, etc. So a parent might think they are doing everything right but might not be. This wouldn't be irresponsible parenting, it would just mean they were misinformed.

However if a health care provider told me my child was overweight, I would listen to them. I know I wouldn't deliberately overfeed my child however I might be overfeeding them regardless if I was misinformed about suitable portion sizes for a child. I'd want to fix that. I know I'm not a perfect parent, which is why I'm not going to pretend that any children of mine are immune to becoming overweight due to misinformation on my part.

SunshineMMum · 24/11/2013 13:06

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CogsworthAndJerry · 24/11/2013 13:20

Some of them don't listen, no. On the other hand, some of them do.

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 24/11/2013 13:57

"what do you tell a hungry child every time they plead for food"?

No.
That's what you tell them.
Lots of kids have a big appetite and will swear they are still hungry after a big meal, and angle for bread and butter, when you know they have eaten plenty. You say no. They forget about it and go off and do something else. (As long as no actually means no).

Sirzy · 24/11/2013 14:15

If DS has eaten a good meal and asks for more food I say no. Normally offering him a glass of water does stops he being "hungry" and if not then he can wait until the next meal.

Most hunger seems to be from boredom or habit anyway, I doubt half the people who say they are hungry between meals actually are if they are eating proper meals

Talkinpeace · 24/11/2013 15:01

If a child is permanently hungry, make sure that you give them protein rather than fat or ANY sugar

and yes, a BIG glass of milk - many many children are dehydrated a lot of the time because we do not get them a drink when we put the kettle on.

but be aware of Prader Willi : a child I know well was diagnosed with it as a baby so his mum has been able to set rules since before he can remember - but when he gets 'the hunger' it is astonishing : and life limiting.

Sidge · 24/11/2013 15:11

what do you tell a hungry child every time they plead for food you tell them no. Repeatedly if necessary.

My daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome - it's incredibly rare so virtually none of the 'always hungry' children are likely to have it. It also goes along with learning difficulties, physical characteristics and developmental delay.

But if you have just given a child a decent meal with age-appropriate portions, they have had enough fluids, and are still asking for more, it's OK to say no. They're not going to waste away before the next meal...

I think part of the problem is that parents feed their children constantly. Breakfast merges into snack time merges into lunch which merges into another snack which is followed swiftly by dinner, then supper or more snacks. And non-stop fizzy drinks, juice or milk in between.

Talkinpeace · 24/11/2013 15:26

sidge
you are right, I forget how rare it is having always known a kid with it.

On the 5:2 forums, rule one for successful weight loss is
NO SNACKING
because snacking is designed to sell more bad food, not for any nutritional reasons.
we should ALL go without food for several stretches of the day - as we do at night

hmc · 24/11/2013 15:29

When mine say they are hungry (not long after a decent meal) I generally suggest a piece of fruit - more often than not they know then that the game is up (invariably they were after a sugary treat). Obviously not suggesting that it is quite so simple for children with rare disorders

IfNotNowThenWhen · 24/11/2013 15:39

I think some children do genuinely get hungry between meals (say, after school, or if you cook when you come home from work and they have to wait for their tea) but some fruit and a glass of milk is ample. Or even a digestive biscuit. Just not 10 digestive biscuits!

Snowbility · 24/11/2013 16:10

I think I'd find it hard to say no to a hungry child - mine are rarely hungry, they love food but don't overeat, they eat according to their appetite and they are very, very skinny.

Do the kids who say they are always hungry but have no medical issues just grow out of it or are parents just delaying the fat stage.

ICameOnTheJitney · 24/11/2013 16:11

Snow it's not hunger which drives overeaters but more often than not an addiction to sugar. Sugar, especially refined sugar is almost like heroin...you get massive cravings.