to think this "friend" is a massive wankbadger?

[Objection]

I moved in with a friend temporarily whilst our (OP and myself) house is completing. OP is living with his DPs (no room for me).
It was originally going to be for about 6 months whilst we bought and renovated but my "friend" turned out to be a demon from hell (disgusting messy, loud, strangers over in the middle of the night, screamed at me at the slightest inclination etc) that I had to leave. So I lied (I know I know) and after a few weeks of trying to sort it out/put up with it I told her that things had changed with the house and now OP and I needed to move in. I felt this was a better reason for "you're a complete psycho and I can't put up with this any more".

I gave her 4 weeks notice (ending on Dec 2nd, when the house should be ours). After screaming, storming off and generally having a paddy we sorted it out and that was fine.

She spent a week or so looking for a replacement housemate and found one she loved who said yes. Great.

But yesterday evening she comes into my room demanding to know when my house will be sorted. I told her about the call to the soliciters I'd made that day and said that I'd let her know as soon as I knew but I'd be out by the 2nd.

"Well, you have to be out by this weekend."

"Sorry?"

"My new housemate starts her job on Monday."

"Right. But I can't move out until I have a house to move to."

"That's not my problem. You screwed me over about the six months so I don't see why I should be loyal to you for the 4 weeks notice. We had nothing in writing, you have no legal standing. You don't exist."

To cut a long story short, after calling my family psychopaths (because I'd confided in my grandmothers mental illness the night before) she threw me out. It was 9pm at night, freezing cold.

Now I'm living out of my car and sleeping on my mother's sofa - over an hour away from where I work.

AIBU to rant and to think she is a nasty piece of ?


(On a different note, I'm concerned that my computer didn't recognise the word "badger" but had no issue with "wankbadger" )

[breatheslowly]

I haven't read your previous threads, but there do seem to be two sides to this. She sounds thoroughly unpleasant, but on the other hand you did agree to rent for 6 months and then went back on that agreement, so she had a big hole in her budget. I'm not saying that excuses kicking you out in the cold at 9pm, but it must be a bit stressful for her too.

[bungmean]

Your "friend" sounds like she has a borderline personality disorder.
Walk away, don't engage further - it'll only escalate.

[ConfusedPixie]

finance You can, but you must declare it. I know this well as my current landlords won't let me register to vote at this address because they don't want to be caught!

Not that I advocate dobbing them in, I'd just find it very difficult to restrain from doing it myself in vengeance DP wouldn't let me.

Everybody knows that agreeing to rent for X time isn't always going to work out. Your 'friend' is being a dick about it. It's the same as the house I'm in being a shit tip, we put up and shut up because we have no other choice but sometimes you are pushed to breaking point and end up in awkward conversations about when you plan to leave, like the ones my landlady has been dragging me into trying to work out when we're leaving as she knows that I'm pissed off at the kitchen mess thanks to the man child she calls her partner.

[Objection]

Breathe - that is true but she said herself she wouldn't/didn't have any trouble replacing me, it's a popular area. Plus I would have stayed for the 6 months if she hadn't made my life hell, so I'm not going to feel guilty about. But you are right, I'm not blameless!

[josephinebruce]

Thank you so much for introducing the word "wankbadger" into my life!!!!

[Hullygully]

ticktock 80 I love your tardis

[HollaAtMeBaby]

Think i remember your other thread - was she the very very dirty girl? YANBU.

[Caitlin17]

She does not have to disclose income from letting a room to a lodger; so far as her landlord as long as having someone else in the house isn't causing overcrowding it's not up to her landlord to tell her who she can have staying with her so ignore the suggestions about shopping her to anyone.
As a lodger you are not entitled to have a tenancy agreement. It was open to the 2 of you to have put in writing what you agreed, but as you didn't, and as arrangements with lodgers are pretty much unenforceable there wasn't anything she could do when you decided to leave but equally your choice of giving her 4 weeks notice is just an arbitrary figure you picked to suit you and she's entitled to ignore it if it doesn't suit her.

[ApocalypseCheeseToastie]

Ooooohhhh

[Turnipsandpumpkins]

I thought most tenancy agreements i.e. hers with the landlord prohibit subletting.Which is what she is doing if she is taking in a paying lodger.
I could be wrong though.

[trufflesnuffler]

You need to hide prawns around the house to rot and take a shit behind the fridge. It's for her own good.

[ConfusedPixie]

Tenancy agreements very rarely allow subletting and yes, you do need to declare income from lodgers like you need to declare income from any other source, whether it's taxable or not.

Both situations are very common down here and whilst it isn't commonly reported, people do get into big shit over it. Again, not advocating reporting but I'd have a lot of difficulty not doing it myself. As a lodger it is the only power you have wrt your living space, the knowledge that hmrc would come down on them if they knew, because the untaxable allowance in the rent a room scheme isn't that much. It's handy know and I know people who have used it to barter time in the house to search for somewhere else in situations like OPs.

[sashh]

YABU the correct term is cockwomble

[Objection]

Caitlin17 - I'm not saying she had a legal obligation just that it was extremely wankbadgery behaviour

[Financeprincess]

Just to be clear, Caitlin is correct. You don't have to declare income from letting a room to a lodger to HMRC if you earn up to £4,250 per year from doing so. Income tax is not to be confused with council tax - for the latter, you are expected to tell your local council if more than one person lives at the house, since relief for single occupancy would be withdrawn.

I'd go with the prawns myself, OP!

[MissWimpyDimple]

You absolutely do need to declare subletting. The agent may not care (they can't do much about it though in reality) that she keeps it a mess but they should care about the subletting!

[ConfusedPixie]

Finance: but anything over that amount is considered income and is liable for income tax. Which is why it needs to be declared. Not many people rent a room for less than £81 a week.

And wrt subletting, that is something that will breech a letting contract, as is lying about how many people live in the place, which is also common practice around my way.

[diddl]

She sounds awful-but bloody hell!
6months!

Why didn't you & your partner get somewhere together?

[Weegiemum]

bungmean way to go diagnosing a major disorder on the strength of this. Are you a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist?

I hate the way this term is used on here.

[Weegiemum]

Although, op's "friend" does sound like she needs help from a professional.

[Tiredemma]

PMSL @ OP 'friend' being diagnosed with BPD because she is loud, messy, a bit aggressive and invites strangers home.

It can take years to get a psychiatric diagnosis- I dont think a few threads on a talk board hold much weight.

[Objection]

Completely agree - it winds me up no end when people start diagnosing online.

[NynaevesSister]

I remember your last thread and actually am glad you are out of there.

[Caitlin17]

It is not subletting. Subletting is where she moved out and OP moved in.

If OP and this girl had been in a relationship and OP helped with the house hold bills do you think the landlord needs to be told about that?

If a family member had moved in and also helped out would that have to be declared ? No. This is no different, the tenant has not sublet. It's not for landlord to dictate who tenant has living with her.

As for the suggestions of prawns, grow up.

[DameDeepRedBetty]

If she lives on her own she's entitled to a 25% discount on Council tax, well worth having the way mine's skyrocketted in the last year or two. I'd be very very surprised if she's not claiming that. No harm in letting the Council know she's usually got extra people in her home. If she's not been claiming, then she'll be fine. If she has, she'll be caught.