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To wonder if I should 'report' this parent, but could stop her chances of fostering

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Darttotheheart · 03/11/2013 20:14

Warning long and a little complex.

I have a DD9 with SN - social and communication disorder. She experienced bulling for quite a long time at her precious school, one of the girls involved was an adopted child with a parent who felt she could do no wrong. The girl would basically Chinese burn my DD's arm every day and had on one occasion strangled my little girl. I had been into school about this but was basically fobbed off and told my DD was exaggerating this and other incidents.
( A cahms nurse did an observation and actually confirmed the bulling plus my daughter being used as a scape goat by the teacher for any problems in the class and my DD is now at a different school)

However in the summer term before I moved her, this parent shouted at my daughter as we were in the school car park, asking her what the hell she had done to her dd. I asked her not to shout at my daughter and if she had any problems to speak to me or school. She also told my daughter to 'shut her gob' when my dd said she hadn't done anything and had no idea what the lady was talking about. School and some great friends did deal with this, and the woman apologised eventually. I gave permission for school to tell her my daughter had a SN and my friends also told the woman that my daughter had lost her farther recently. My DD was extremely upset at some strange woman shouting at her for no reason.

I hoped by moving school we would avoid this toxic woman as well as the bulling but as we live in a village it has not been 100% possible.

My DD went into the local shop and this woman was in the there and in a sneary voice asked if she liked her new school and had she made any friends. My DD looked her straight in the eye and said 'Its non of your business' and walked out. Rude, but to be honest as far as I was concerned understandable. We have since avoided the shop.

Then last week we were in Tesco's and while I was doing the self check out DD went to change a t shirt in the clothing section. She came back and said I saw MRS XXX over there. I said did you and she just went quite - not wanting to make a drama I did not ask any more. The next day my DD told me that the the woman had told her to 'Fuck of you little bitch'

Now I know INBU to be appalled at this woman, but DD and I have talked it through and she is ok .

However I have been told by a friend this woman is going before the fostering panel next week and the though of her having vulnerable and possible SN children in her care is not sitting well with me. She has shouted at someone else's child without even knowing both sides of the story, and even when told my DD was vulnerable chose to swear at her again.

I happen to know one of the lead SW's who advise the panel - do I 'report' what's happened and possibly ruin her fostering career or just step away?

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Gruntfuttock · 04/11/2013 11:15

I think you have a moral duty to report her. Please do.

DameDeepRedBetty · 04/11/2013 11:19

Another vote for report, for all the many good reasons already mentioned.

misspontypine · 04/11/2013 12:02

Defiantly report her.

What your dd said is irrelevant, she could have said "fuck off your fat, big nosed witch" and the woman should still have not said anything rude. She is an adult, there is never an excuse for adults to swear at children, especially vulnerable children.

Kewcumber · 04/11/2013 12:10

You can't "take back" an adoption! Its permanent in teh same way giving birth to a child is permanent. You child can be taken into care and your parental rights terminated and the child placed for adoption just in teh same way any child can. I wouldn't worry about the adoption, this woman sounds unpleasant but there isn;t any evidence that her child is neglected/abused. If being an unpleasant person was grounds for removing children then SW would be even more busy than they are!

I would ask your friend the SW whether they look into incidences which happen at school... maybe if they look in the right place they will ask the right questions.

Alexandrite · 04/11/2013 12:12

Report her. She sounds awful

BrianTheMole · 04/11/2013 13:11

I would report. Either something will come of it, or it won't. But at least you will have done the right thing.

Thants · 04/11/2013 13:55

Report her. The school and cahms team will also have evidence.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE · 04/11/2013 14:04

I actually don't think her saying "It's non of your business" is rude in this context. This girl ended up leaving her school because of actions of this woman and her DD, so really, her progress is non of her business.

I would report her.

Darttotheheart · 04/11/2013 17:00

I have booked a meeting with my friend - She didn't comment as such and said that she would be unable to feedback on anything but she did think it was worth me logging.

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Clutterbugsmum · 04/11/2013 17:32

I would make a point next time I saw her to tell if she speaks to your daughter again you will be reporting her for harassment to the police.

Don't pussyfoot around her it's how she is able to bully people because they stay quite. It's too hard to see how her daughter became a bully to.

ZombieMojaveWonderer · 04/11/2013 18:34

Report it. Report all of it! This woman should not be looking after any children because she is a menace.

Pixieonthemoor · 04/11/2013 18:47

I'd report her in a heart beat.

zatyaballerina · 04/11/2013 18:54

The possibility of a vulnerable child going to that nasty woman and her bullying daughter makes me feel a bit sick, definitely report, if she's that bad to strangers children in public, imagine how awful within the privacy of her own home. yanbu.

RedHelenB · 04/11/2013 19:11

If you report it has to be done properly, not by "having a word" with your friend.I would be surprised if one incident in school would merit a refusal to allow her to foster though.

Whistleblower0 · 04/11/2013 19:14

Definitely report. I think it's scary that this woman is responsible for the care of vulnerable children.
Good on your dd by the way for telling her to mind her own. I hope your dd is ok Sad

Darttotheheart · 04/11/2013 19:21

RedHelen - hence me having a 'meeting' with my friend - but she was also very clear she would not be able to tell me any outcomes which I totally understand.

I would also like to add I don't think her dd is a 'horrible' child just one who is not used to boundaries and used to getting her own way alot. She very often stopped my dd playing with the one friend she had at her old school. this little girl then had the mickey taken out of her for being friends with my dd out of school by quite a few children. The staff at the school basicaly said my daughter invited the bulling as she was 'odd' rather than help my daughter with her social skills.

The major thing I have learnt is to listen to your child - my elder son has also now revealed to me that he spent his last year in junior school defending my dd at playtimes as the staff basically did nothing or shouted at my dd when she came to them to 'report' being hurt as apparently it was her own fault.

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HauntedFlyingNaanBread · 04/11/2013 19:25

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bochead · 04/11/2013 19:31

report it. There's something worringly unstable about a personality that will knowingly bully a SN kid. A spiteful streak has no place in caring for a vulnerable foster child.

Foster kids are societies most vulnerable & if noone protects them from the state sometimes (stories of suffering while in local authority care are legion) then we have ALL failed them.

Being in state care does not equal GOOD care automatically, and these kids have often already been through so much that they deserve the absolute best care and parenting once they are finally placed in a loving home iykiwm.

Social workers just can't give them that if warning red flags like those you've observed aren't passed onto them BEFORE "bad stuff" happens iykwim.

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