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Animals vs humans

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fifi669 · 01/11/2013 13:16

AIBU to think if faced with choosing a pet over a human (even if a stranger), you should choose the human?

The idea was brought up in another thread and put in life or death situation. Building on fire contains your pet and a stranger. You could only save one, who would it be?

I had a dog, Ralph, I cried my heart out when he died 3 years ago. The only dog I wasn't scared of! But I can't imagine leaving a person to die instead, no matter how my heart would break.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 02/11/2013 17:06

I'll take my chances with the animal rescuers! Y? Because most people who love animals are kind and caring in most walks in life. I'd have more confidence that more would be done to help and the fact that they would at least try to save me or my family, than those who say "I've got the person sod anything else"

candycoatedwaterdrops · 02/11/2013 17:08

Are you serious, everlong? Stop defending the twats who think they're oh so clever to act as an armchair psychiatrist. Angry

livingzuid · 02/11/2013 17:08

Oh everlong how wrong you are. The difference is keeping the thread polite and full of interesting debate as did some of the pro humans on here. I could find a multitude of insults. I just chose not to.

How it's OK to insult and be rude to people who have a differing opinion to you in a purely hypothetical situation is really quite odd. But there you go. Humans eh?

trish5000 · 02/11/2013 17:11

btw. No one has to answer my questions if they dont want to. I realise that some of you have rather gone through the mill as it were for the last 24 hours.

littlewhitebag · 02/11/2013 17:13

I won't insult anyone no matter what they choose as I am 100% aware that this isn't a real situation plus I am a very nice person - even though I chose my dog.

There is no need for some of the really horrible comments I have read on here. I will say it again - no one has actually died - there is no fire.

livingzuid · 02/11/2013 17:13

Trish I answered that earlier and I hope they would save my dog first. It probably wouldn't happen but I might use my awesome powers of persuasion to make the fireman stop for him on the way out :)

WriteRight · 02/11/2013 17:15

I would save a stranger. Just because someone is a stranger to me, they are family to someone else.

I had a dog growing up and she was my best friend. And I was heartbroken when she died. Now my mum is dying and the pain is in no way compatible. Though if you had asked me when my dog was alive, I would have said I loved them both in the same way. Hindsight is wonderful. I would never chose and animal over a person, and those who would, I sincerely hope it's never a person you love left when someone else rescues their dog.

Of course this is all highly theoretical, and will never happen, but still. Reverse it and see if your justification to save your dog would change if someone let a person you love die and saved their dog.Would your conviction still stand? Would you say to that person they made the right choice?

This thread is weird, I don't even know why I added Grin

WriteRight · 02/11/2013 17:17

Compatible should be comparable Blush

everlong · 02/11/2013 17:18

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UrgentNews · 02/11/2013 17:18

I'm pretty much a lurker on here but I had to give my opinion on this topic. Pianodoodle, you say that someone elses animal family member is not as important as your human family member; however I am inclined to believe that you would also say that regarding another person's family member and yours. All human's would say that, as they value their own family and friends more than someone else's. to me, and to many other users, a pet is an equal family member. To you my dog's life, and probably mine for that matter, are less important than the life of someone you care about; and to me, the life of a stranger is not as important as that of my family member, my dog.

The only debate on this thread is whether one person's family is more mportant than someone else's. To me, my dog is like a human family member, which means the theoretical question might as well be 'Would you save your sibling/best friend/child,or a stranger?'. It all boils down to whether or not you consider your family more important than someone else's.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 02/11/2013 17:22

So much arrogance on this thread. "My opinion is right and yours is wrong."

everlong · 02/11/2013 17:25

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Greydog · 02/11/2013 17:26

so -lets say this stranger is someone like - Magdelena Luczak or Mariusz Krezolek, Mick Phillpot or other "humans" - are they worth saving?

PrincessFlirtyPants · 02/11/2013 17:27

In your opinion, everlong

everlong · 02/11/2013 17:30

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candycoatedwaterdrops · 02/11/2013 17:35

Decency? You've been anything but decent on this thread.

fifi669 · 02/11/2013 17:35

The pet savers, would you agree that although you regard your pets as family and would save them over a stranger, that of your family they would come bottom of the list to be saved?

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candycoatedwaterdrops · 02/11/2013 17:37

I have some right arseholes in my family, fifi. Grin

ADishBestEatenCold · 02/11/2013 17:38

However, the original post didn't mention cousins, children (multiple or just one) or even plumbers.

Someone mention plumbers? Last seen with Rhonda. Is he back? I've been looking for him! Grin

Oh. You lot still here. Hello. I've been doing a very quick (and not very thorough) catch-up. I noticed someone thought that the 'dog people' possibly didn't have children and so thought of their dogs as substitute children. I'm one of the 'dog people' and I have children. I also noticed someone wanted to kill (I think) Outraged's dog. Really? That's outrageous. Not okay.

I've been loath to say this because too many 'hypotheticals' stress me out (I want to jump up and down and yell "It's not real, get a grip") but here goes.

A long time ago my dog, of that time, saved a small child, who fell into the sea. (This bit is real). I'm not saying that the child would have died if the dog hadn't been there, nor I'm saying that a human couldn't have taken over from the dog and finished the saving. I can't know those things, but I do know that the child's life was in real danger and the dog completely saved the child. It was very quick and surprisingly undramatic. Children paddling at the shore, some climbing on boulders, and one fell into deeper water. Quick as a flash, my dog was in there, grabbed the child and swam ashore. It was touch and go whether she'd manage, for a second or two. At first she tried to hold the child upside down in the water (wouldn't have done at all), then the child tried to drown the dog (they were probably nearly the same weight), but they both quickly got the hang of it and by the time the adults were on their feet and in the water, the dog already had the child in the shallows. It was lovely and of course everyone was very pleased. Smile

Here's the hypothetical bit. If that dog of mine and a stranger were in the burning building and the (nearly drowned) child's mum could only rescue one, who should she save?

Now, where's the plumber?

PresidentServalan · 02/11/2013 17:41

Some of the human savers are just managing to reinforce my reply about saving the animals. Particularly curlew. Isn't it funny how those who purport to like people more than animals are the ones being offensive and insulting? And fwiw if I had to choose between an unknown person and an unknown animal I would still choose the animal over any person, regardless of whether that person was an adult or a child. But then I am the sort of person who wouldn't go out of my way to help people anyway. Animals are not generally unpleasant but people are.

FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 02/11/2013 17:42

If my child had been saved by a dog, I would be very thankful, but I would still save the human first, every time. It wouldn't even occur to me to save the dog. Actually, I find the idea of saving a dog, any dog, and leaving a human to die abhorrent.

wonderingsoul · 02/11/2013 17:42

stranger would come before my pet.

and im a person who think humans are pretty horrid and do actually prefer animals to humans.

i get people think of thier dog/pets as part of thier family and i get it would be heart breaking but i dont see how you could pick an animal over a human.. esp the op that have said they would pick a pet over a child.

how would you feel explainthat to the person family.. sorry love but my pet is more important hen you mum.. child.. daughter// husband.

PresidentServalan · 02/11/2013 17:43

fifi669 Other than my parents, no I wouldn't bother with the rest of my family - they are tossers.

PresidentServalan · 02/11/2013 17:45

And I would also hope that someone would save my cats before me.

Greydog · 02/11/2013 17:45

Good - so we can save the people I suggested earlier, who are strangers to me (and to all the posters here, I should imagine)

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