Animals vs humans

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AIBU to think if faced with choosing a pet over a human (even if a stranger), you should choose the human?

The idea was brought up in another thread and put in life or death situation. Building on fire contains your pet and a stranger. You could only save one, who would it be?

I had a dog, Ralph, I cried my heart out when he died 3 years ago. The only dog I wasn't scared of! But I can't imagine leaving a person to die instead, no matter how my heart would break.

I think it's a shame some posters had to let themselves down by being unnecessarily rude, but even so it's been a very enjoyable thread - for me, anyway. I've made my own position very clear but I'd like to point out that I have no problem with other people choosing to behave differently.

My partners dog puts a lot into society.

He was worth £45,000 for training, that's a lot of cash.

But he's a help to my partner, which matters more than anything.

Just to give you fair warning- if a bizarre set of circumstances arises and one of you saves your dog from drowning or from a burning building leaving my child to die, I will come and kill your dog. I will do it humanely, but I will kill it.

Why punish the innocent dog?? It was the owner that made the decision to leave your child behind so why not seek revenge on them??

Poor dog

It's not really for you decide how I should value (or otherwise) the lives around me though, is it?

If I went in and saved my dog and then did manage to go back for your child, successfully, would you feel the same? No, no doubt I'd be a hero.

What if there were no dogs but two children, and I managed save only the younger one, who didn't happen to be yours - would you then kill that child who is, effectively, the dog in this situation?

I'm glad you're not around to apply other arbitrary rules to my life. I'll save whomever I damn please.

"If I went in and saved my dog and then did manage to go back for your child, successfully, would you feel the same? No, no doubt I'd be a hero."

I suppose I would have to treat you as a hero, and I would, obviously be incredibly grateful that you had saved my child. But I would dispise you.

I would kill the dog because I value human life over animal. And because obviously the owner would die for their dog, so killing the owner instead would give them what they wanted.

Yes, curlew, you value human life over animal life, and you're free to go and save all the human lives you like and leave animals to die. Why should that mean I have to do the same?

Should I drink milky tea without sugar because you do? (Obviously I don't know how you take your tea, but I'm sure you see the point I'm making).

Should I always wear skirts because you don't like trousers?

Should I be a Hindu because you are? And so on...

Just to add some perspective, we had a terrible fire in theshopping mall here in Doha in 2012. For various reasons, the crèche was not on the plans and it wasn't until someone raised the alarm that the Civil Defense knew that it was occupied. Without a grain of thought for their own families, or their lives, 2 officers entered knowing it was likely they would die but despite being restrained felt they couldn't leave those children. 13 children died and six adults. Unless any of us could say we would do the same, I suggest that arguing over a dog, cat or human is irrelevant. Most people are just not that selfless. I, along with many others lived through that terrible time. A few years before, there was a fire at thJust to add some perspective, we had a terrible fire in theshopping mall here in Doha in 2012. For various reasons, the crèche was not on the plans and it wasn't until someone raised the alarm that the Civil Defense knew that it was occupied. Without a grain of thought for their own families, or their lives, 2 officers entered knowing it was likely they would die but despite being restrained felt they couldn't leave those children. 13 children died and six adults. Unless any of us could say we would do the same, I suggest that arguing over a dog, cat or human is irrelevant. Most people are just not that selfless. I, along with many others lived through that terrible time. A few years before, there was a fire at the animal shelter. Again officers risked their lives and saved almost all of the 60 odd dogs by crawling in and opening the cages. Both times I feel humbled by their actions. Humanity is not measurable by outcome or the type of life. Obviously any person, if both events happened simultaneously would expect resources to go to the humans first but does that mean that compassion and a desire to save any life is invalid?e animal shelter. Again officers risked their lives and saved almost all of the 60 odd dogs by crawling in and opening the cages. Both times I feel humbled by their actions. Humanity is not measurable by outcome or the type of life. Obviously any person, if both events happened simultaneously would expect resources to go to the humans first but does that mean that compassion and a desire to save any life is invalid?

sorry that went a bit funny but the gist is there

"What if there were no dogs but two children, and I managed save only the younger one, who didn't happen to be yours - would you then kill that child who is, effectively, the dog in this situation?"

No response to that question, curlew?

Are people seriously saying they would deliberately kill the dog just because someone didbt rescue THEIR child.

So there's a wrong child to rescue now as well as the wrong species???

Only one person, that I've noticed.

I've seen at least two that have admitted they would kill the dog because their child didn't get out.

Charming bunch, the human savers.

And people wonder why others would choose the dog

I'm so that anyone would kill an innocent animal in an act of revenge.

Really does prove why I would save the dog.

Judgmental to the max.

I don't know what I'd do for sure. But I wouldn't blame anyone else for their decisions.

I'd imagine though I'd go to the one I could hear in pain. So if the dog was whimpering, I'd probably rush to it and if the human was crying, same. It's hearing suffering than thinking what would happen next that would urge me on to act however I would act.

If someone killed my dog I'd happily do time. Think on

Well, if nothing else this thread has confirmed for me that you should always look twice at people who don't like animals.

I've risked my life to save your child and you'll kill my dog?

Now does anyone wonder why some people would rather save their beloved pets?

Because some people are like Curlew. They deserve to be burnt alive.

Curlew : "I would kill the dog because I value human life over animal. And because obviously the owner would die for their dog, so killing the owner instead would give them what they wanted."

And this is the kind of vindictive person we could be saving whilst allowing an animal to die...

If I saw anyone harm or even taunt my cats I dread to think what I might do to them. Never underestimate the desire an owner has to keep their pet safe and protected!

I would kill the dog because I value human life over animal. And because obviously the owner would die for their dog, so killing the owner instead would give them what they wanted

Really, how dare you. The person risked their own life to save something dear to them. They owe you fuck all.

"Because some people are like Curlew. They deserve to be burnt alive."

Ouch - easy, Outraged. We dog savers were looking like much nicer people until that!

"What if there were no dogs but two children, and I managed save only the younger one, who didn't happen to be yours - would you then kill that child who is, effectively, the dog in this situation?"

No of course not. If you were trying save humans and failed, or on,y managed to save one, then of course you've done nothing wrong.

Leaving a child to save a dog is unforgivable.

Leaving a child to save a dog is unforgivable

Has anyone actually said they'd do this though Curlew??