to think my husband should not have just worked the extra hour for free?!!

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My husband worked his night shift last night. He came home an hour later than usual. He said that because the clocks went forward during his shift then it is just tough. The next shift worker came in at 6am (which was 7 am in real time.) So this is so not fair.. the current shift worker will work 11hrs and get paid for 12 and my dh worked 13hrs and wil get paid for 12!! WTAF?????
He said he checked with his boss when I started saying that he should have come home if he wasn't getting paid.

You sound very very petty. If I were to count up extra hours my dh had worked or I have worked in time here and there we would def be owed wages. however I would prefer to be an employee who isn't viewed as a clockwatcher or a person who isn't committed to giving their best on jobs. Its how you get on and when promotion chances come you can be guaranteed that clockwatchers and jobsworths will have less chance.

welcome to the world of grown ups!

I think you are all very sanguine about it. Especially the folk who say ". What's an hour, I routinely do 10,20,30 hours a week extra?" Its not right. Its not good will. Its employers taking advantage. Try the good will argument if you announced that instead of working 20 upaid hours in a month, you would infact be working 20 hours less but expected to be paid for it. See how far the good will gets you. If it doesn't work both ways is ain't good will its taking the piss. If a job requires that much unpaid work, then they really should be employing an extra person. When I ran a business, I paid my staff for every second they worked. Why on earth would I expect them to work for nothing to earn ME money. Hours are hours and a contract is a contract.

its just very short sighted to moan about 1 hour a year.

I dont have to do it at all (pt day worker) but if I did I would just crack on with it.

its really petty

its not the same argument Monty, we are talking about 1 hour a year.

due to clocks changing

but I agree people saying 'my dh works 125 hours overtime' is a bit pointless to this OP

mind I bet their dh'sare in line for better pay or bonuses

I'm having to do an extra couple of hours a week at the moment due to outreach work. It won't be for ever and I know bloody well that if I complain officially about it it will be remembered next time redundancy rears its head. We've had the process twice in the past two years so I'm not taking the risk. That's the world of work these days.

My boss is like that montysma1 and I bet your employees appreciated your approach. However, I don't think OP's husband is being cheated in this situation precisely because the hours go back and then later in the year they go forward. Ok, it might be a nice gesture to pay but I think moaning about it is a little bit petty unless your employer does this all the time.

I can understand why you might find it a bit annoying, however there are many many people who do extra unpaid hours everyday because that's the nature of the job. So I think you're unliky to find much sympathy. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I think you should just get over it really and maybe think about ll the people who would be happy to have a job.

I work in an industry which is unionised and one of those unions I'd well known to go on strike at the drop of a hat. Nobody bats an eyelid about the extra hour for the nightshirt workers. That's how unimportant it is in the grand scheme of things.

I'm contracted 9-5 monday to friday
I actually work 8.30 -5.30 that's an hour every day my employer gets out of me for free - x 5
So in the scheme of things I wouldn't complain really.

If you're paid by the month, you don't get paid for an extra day in February in a leap year - that's life

If he is hourly paid then this is not on.His employers are pulling a fast one.

Its still an hour that person has worked and is entitled to reimbursement for. A business model that requires free (and frankly, forced labour, judging by the number of people who wouldn't dare to pipe up in case its "remembered") is not a business , its exploitation.

The very idea of asking my people to work for nothing makes me shudder. Why on earth should they? The goodwill aspect comes, when if I need extra hours, I ask,and if they can do it, they do do it, in the knowledge that they will be paid for doing so. If they can't, I do the working for nothing, because I am the boss. Exploiting hourly paid workers is supposed to be illegal. People deserve employment law, employers are quick enough to resort to that law when it suits them.

Jesus wept - it's an hour. Some of you really need to wake up in the real world. AN HOUR. Do you know how much work & expense is involved in changing a payroll that is based on standard shifts/hours?

It's perfectly normal, what a massive fuss about nothing. In the Spring, he will be paid for an hour he didn't work, cancelling out last night's 'slave labour'.

I've only skimmed most of the replies, but I'm confused - why did he come home an hour later - surely he still got in at 8am or whatever?

Granted - yesterday, that 8am would have been 9am, and he was out of the house an hour more, or by "an hour later than usual" do you just mean based on 'old time'? That would be very unreasonable.

Also agree with others who say the day shift worker will still do 12 hours

Unreasonable of the OP I mean - to be basing it on old time - not her DH for, you know, doing his job.

Do you know how much work & expense is involved in changing a payroll that is based on standard shifts/hours?
I have never come across a payroll system that can't process a hour's overtime.
And if it is not possible , the an hours time in lieu should be given

,,and spring will only cancel out last night if he is on the rota for that shift

My DH has somehow managed to only do the spring change and none of the autumn changes for the last four years. Great for him, not so great for the opposite shift :)

that's life, be glad he has a job

Think OP needs to get a grip. Plenty of people put in extra hours for no extra pay, its part and parcel of many jobs.

Had he followed your suggestion of simply walking out, i doubt he would have to worry about the next time it happens as he would likely not be there!

In my case I'm certainly not going to make a fuss. I'm allowed so many hours a year paid for hospital treatment. I'm already well past them this year and I haven't been called on it. Give and take.

When I worked weekend nights, we were always paid for the additional hour in autumn and paid for a 12 hour shift when the clocks changed back in the spring. It's bad enough working 12 hour shifts but that extra hour is a killer. The day shift missed out on an hour's rest which was almost as bad.
In a previous job, we would split the difference - nights would do half an hour and days would do half an hour; in the spring we'd share the hour off.

Usually night shift workers are able to recoup that hour in the spring when the clocks change again.

Then it's fair.

My experience of working with shift workers is that they do job and knock at Christmas so end up being paid for hours not worked. Its all give and take really.