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AIBU?

to think this a major 'breakthrough' in the Ben Needham case?

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AliaTheEvilLeaper · 18/10/2013 23:19

A 4 year old girl living in a Roma Camp has been found not related to the camp and parents.
Ben Needham's family apparently had a line of enquiry years back about being linked back to Larissa,
Which is where the area this girl was found.
If there's so many children out there with a chance of maybe being Ben or other stolen, shouldn't we be checking this out?
It's a possibility and a plausible one at that.
Girl found with no DNA matching to parents
www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.home&id=1553
Lots of other children out there in those camps.No idea whether they're biologically related or not.
Is it not worth the enquiry? For the peace of mind?
It hasn't been investigated. It should be. Just to make SURE.
Especially as this little girl has been discovered in the exact same place as Ben was purpoted to have been.

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NicknameIncomplete · 19/10/2013 13:30

I read the mirror link. Why is it focused on madeline mccann? Shouldnt it be more focused on ben needem seeing as it was in the same area where he went missing.

AliaTheEvilLeaper · 19/10/2013 13:36

Shouldnt it be more focused on ben needem seeing as it was in the same area where he went missing.

It's the same area there was a sighting/report of him and I quote "living with the gypsies" years ago.
That was basically ignored and not followed up. After this little girl has been found with them, surely Ben's case needs highlighting much more? As that's what one of the leads said had happened to him years ago - in that exact same area.

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Miopiccolotopolino · 19/10/2013 13:37

Voodoo, that ounces gloomy . Have you got any links? Thank you.

Miopiccolotopolino · 19/10/2013 13:38

that sounds gloomy

auntmargaret · 19/10/2013 13:49

Omletta, my ex, DD1's dad was a senior police officer and I told him. I don't know if he recorded it. I didn't tell the Portuguese police because we were leaving the next day and I was just too shocked and scared. I also didnt want DD1 to know it had happened. I emailed the FindMadeleine website and told them too.

Canthisonebeused · 19/10/2013 14:20

How irresponsible to have not reported aunt.

Miopiccolotopolino · 19/10/2013 14:25

This article says that hundreds of families have contacted the Greek authorities in the hope that the girl is their missing child .

Does this mean that hundreds of families in Europe including some in the UK have had thei babies kidnapped in the last four years???

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-parents-among-hundreds-who-2469117

PatoBanton · 19/10/2013 14:30

I wonder if they already have a DNA bank of samples from parents of missing children that they can hold it up against for a match?

If not that might be a good idea.

ZZZenagain · 19/10/2013 14:32

must be the case or at least the dc have gone missing and the parents do not know where they are.

I think the figures are a lot higher than we have been led to believe. We are always told child abductions are very rare (and outside of the family even rarer), yet there do seem to be a great deal of missing dc. I read more than 14,000 go missing every year in the US but how many of those have been abducted as opposed to missing and found not long afterwards in good or bad circumstances I don't know. It does seem to be a big problem world-wide.

I would like to know how many open cases of missing dc we have in Europe. I really have no idea at all - are we thinking in terms of tens, hundreds , thousands or tens of thousands of dc?

AliaTheEvilLeaper · 19/10/2013 14:44

They're slow on the update, but some news outlets are starting to pick up on the link at last.
ITV news and the Mirror are starting to report the Ben link.
The others all seem to be asleep though and are STILL angling their articles towards Madeleine.
Of course I want Madeleine found too, but when there's a link to Ben in this case, why is it not HIS name at the forefront of the papers and that angle being reported?
It's nonsensical.

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AliaTheEvilLeaper · 19/10/2013 14:45

update should read 'uptake', sorry!

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Nancy66 · 19/10/2013 14:55

Because Madeleine (if alive) is still a child and Ben (if alive) is a 24 year old man.

AliaTheEvilLeaper · 19/10/2013 15:01

Because Madeleine (if alive) is still a child and Ben (if alive) is a 24 year old man.

So just because he's now a man, we should all stop looking and reporting on him?

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Nancy66 · 19/10/2013 15:06

I didn't say that did I?
You asked why there was focus on Madeleine. That's why.

AliaTheEvilLeaper · 19/10/2013 15:12

You asked why there was focus on Madeleine. That's why.

I understand Madeleine is a 'fresher' case and she's still a child who needs finding.
When there's no known link to Madeleine going missing and gypsies in Larissa but there was a lead with a man telling authorities years ago that (and I quote) Ben was "living with gypsies in Larissa," why is THAT not being picked up on as much?
When it is a definite link?
So what if he's now a man? He's still Kerry Needham's little boy who disappeared and she needs to know what happened and if he really IS out there as a grown man like that lead said he was with them so many years ago.
When this little girl has now been found, wouldn't you want it out there and investigating?
I know I would.

Wouldn't you?

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ZZZenagain · 19/10/2013 15:18

having had a look on the Interpol site, I think a lot of missing dc are in fact with a parent or other family member (custody battles or abductions within the family to another country); it is known who took the dc but not where they are.

Miopiccolotopolino · 19/10/2013 15:25

But what about the hundreds of families thinking this may be their child? What happened to their children?

pastelmacaroons · 19/10/2013 15:30

Aunt how terrifying for you.

I can imagine what you mean, i was nearly victim to pick pockets in Oxford street, as you say, I just happened to catch the eye of and see very subtle communications between some people sat on a wall as I walked past. Totally imperceptible to anyone else....

How sad you have to qualify telling us your story that you are not racist! Its maddness!

One of the problems with a roving community is the lack of ties to locals, the insular nature of it, and above all, an ability to move under radars....

ZZZenagain · 19/10/2013 15:31

I don't know, maybe they are not hundreds of families but hundreds of people out of a certain total of families (i.e. grandparents, aunts, uncles etc not just parents writing). It does seem a huge amount of people looking for a girl aged about 4.

Miopiccolotopolino · 19/10/2013 15:44

Yes. Very disconcerting .

DontPanicMrMannering · 19/10/2013 15:46

ZZZen again, there is a website listing ALL UK missing children, though as you go through the majority are family known abductions.

auntmargaret · 19/10/2013 15:53

Do you think so, Canthis? And would you have wanted your 5 year old to become aware of this, and to be scared by it, and insecure, and frightened? Would you want it to be an episode in her childhood, rather than something she doesn't even know happened? The whole nature of these gangs is that they are constantly on the move. 30 seconds after it happened, they were nowhere to be seen. But how easy for you to judge me
Pastel, that's exactly how it was. I was just very lucky.

filee777 · 19/10/2013 16:03

aunt you have nothing to feel bad about, you protected your child.

Spirulina · 19/10/2013 16:05

So what do you think should happen?

Uk police can't just go to Greece and start 'investigating'

VoodooHexDoll · 19/10/2013 16:05

No I dont have link it was on fb on redcross page I think. The above headline just stood out as its shookimg to think in 2013 people are sold like slaves.

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