to want Carol Voderman to keep her baps in the breadbin?

[Bogeyface]

She has a great figure, is very beautiful, has great hair (I want her hair!), is intelligent and erudite.

So why the need to squeeze her boobs so up and in that she could rest her chin on them? Just watched 8 out of 10 Cats and she was shoehorned into a top that had them practically falling out and the make up job on them was none too subtle.

Be proud of your boobs, I love mine! But dont be defined by them!

And yet one of the most important thing we try to teach our children is that looks don't matter....

Unfortunately the reality is that looks DO matter. We should teach our children that they shouldn't matter, but "lookism" is getting worse all the time.

But the main culprits of "lookism" are women....

Most men don't actually care who is wearing what.

Don't worry, we can now teach our children that if you have a third from Cambridge or less you're not smart enough to decide how to dress ourselves and can be judged with wild abandon. Plus once you hit fifty you're so repulsive to society you may as well get into your body bag now, saves time and offended eyes.

I want her to keep her entire self under wraps. Or under water. Or under a motorway bridge Cannot stand the woman!!

Unfortunately the reality is that looks DO matter. We should teach our children that they shouldn't matter, but "lookism" is getting worse all the time.

Yes well this thread has certainly made that clear....

she is a good looking woman there is no doubt about that.
she would still be good looking if she didnt flash her tits at every opportunity!

Exactly Worra.

I remember feeling outraged about this as a teen and now I can't even be bothered to get outraged about it, it's so bloody endemic.

Nothing to do with clothes DavesDad.

There's nothing wrong with showing your breasts. It's the natural condition and we are all born unclothed. I'm a naturist and regard having the body unclothed as being the normal state when the weather is warm enough to allow it, as my neighbours will readily confirm.
If someone wants to wear a revealing top that's fine.

What I do find positively unpleasant is to see breasts pushed up and together in an extreme manner forming an unnatural shape, often threatening to ooze out of a top like toothpaste, simply in order to attract attention. It's cheap and demeaning.

Really? That's your view certainly.

I wasn't aware it was a legal requirement to subscribe to it yet...

Fucks sake. Berate Carole Vorderman for showing her tits and having nice hair; berate Mary Beard for having grey hair and wearing comfy cardies. What do people want?!

It's a radical idea, but how about we just let all women wear what they like without giving opinions on it? How about we don't talk about whether their breasts are saggy or what bits of their bodies are acceptable to show?

It's as demeaning to us that we are talking about it as it is to her to be talked about.

Can't we forget about her tits and berate her for her constant advertising of rubbishy 'health' supplements? In the latest one she asks how we take our vitamins! In FOOD, of course, Carol! Not in extortionately expensive tablet form! It's almost as bad as the dodgy loans one.
I skimmed her autobiography at the library the other day. Awful. Dull, dull, dull.

I'm finding it quite funny how people are saying women "shouldn't have to dress a certain way" on TV...and they're qualifying that by saying a woman shouldn't dress a certain way...

Hope i misread your comment as "doggy loans"

I don't object to Carol Vorderman, she doesn't bother me at all. I don't object to how she dresses, either.

But I do object to the fairly rigid convention that while men can appear in the media, on panel shows and do interviews in any old thing, women are expected to be dolled up to the nines. Then they are criticised if they are dolled up, and criticised if they aren't. That I object to.

Lolz at the "she only does a bit of maths", "she only knows up to her 20 times tables" and "well, she only got a third from Cambridge" type comments!

Poor Carol

i cringe every time that Isme advert comes on (ffs brushing the dressing table leg in a husky voice)

i went of her when she would advertise anything,and i mean anything

I really don't know what to think on this one! I agree with HighBrows:
" ... it pisses me off that women feel the need to be half naked while men are dressed 'normally'". I can still remember giving lectures, in January, in a draughty room, where almost all the female students were dressed in teeny shorts and no tights, and the blokes were all in hats and scarves. I could SEE the women shivering. Surely you don't freeze like that unless you feel under huge pressure to dress that way?

On the other hand - I strongly agree that we should all wear anything we like without fear of judgement. I don't know .. anyone got a tweezer for these splinters in my arse?

My boss was at that filming; apparently Carol is very nice indeed. And her dress was nicer in real life than on the telly.

There's nothing wrong with showing your breasts. It's the natural condition and we are all born unclothed

And meanwhile in a thread far far away, in another galaxy section on MN, there are those eagerly campaigning to stop women showing their breasts on national media (Page 3 to be precise....)

Or is it OK for Carol cos we all knows she has brainz too?

Or is it OK for Carol cos we all knows she has brainz too?

I've no problem showing my breasts. I do it on the beach every summer.

The difference is that I tend not to be asked to look stupid while I'm doing it.

If there was the faintest possibility that she would sit on my face, I think I would forgive her the most serious of tit crimes.

Unfortunately I am also 50+, and not really the sort that CV would be looking at.

Lazyjaney
Do I really have to explain to you that there is a world of difference between normal human life, and exposing breasts in unreal situations to sell a TV programme or newspapers?

She got a third from Cambridge, not a first from Oxford.