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To think if you can't work you can't care either?

132 replies

stella69x · 13/10/2013 16:20

So if somebody is in receipt of sickness benefits, therefore they are deemed unfit to work, they should not be entitled to carers allowance for caring for another person.

In my mind if they are fit to care for another person they are fit to work!

Opinions gratefully received

OP posts:
PrincessFlirtyPants · 13/10/2013 18:01

usualsuspect Grin

MrsDeVere · 13/10/2013 18:01

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

usualsuspect · 13/10/2013 18:02

I mean it, OP has taken the comments on board and decided she was very unreasonable.

Maybe we should leave it there.

usualsuspect · 13/10/2013 18:03

Or not Grin

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 13/10/2013 18:06

God MN is shiteous to the max at the moment

CoTananat · 13/10/2013 18:06

MrsDeVere, you should be claiming the Carer's Credit instead, if you are not already. That's what I do, anyway. It's not a cash benefit but it makes sure your stamp is paid and it tags you as a carer in the system.

CoTananat · 13/10/2013 18:07

carer's credit

WalkingDeadFan · 13/10/2013 18:09

Stella69 ..kiss?

Go back to netmums wiLL you! FFS.

That penisbeaker thread has a lot to answer for. Mumsnet has been swarmed with bloody twats for a few days now.

LineRunner · 13/10/2013 18:14

CoTananat, that's a really useful link, thank you. It will help a friend of mine.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 13/10/2013 18:15

*didnt you know everybody on benefits according to some on MN never cheat the system,,etc etc and you cant possibly ask anything regarding this topic as you will be a troll"

Dandy - think logically here, if a person is claiming 2 types of benefits, the DWP will know about it because the person is claiming it from the DWP!

candycoatedwaterdrops · 13/10/2013 18:18

Is carer's credit means tested?

BurlyShassey · 13/10/2013 18:24

Im disabled yet have to care for my disabled child. I have physical and mental disablilities as does DC. no one else can care for DC. I have to try to care for myself.

That doesnt make me a benefit cheat! I have to rely on benefits.

CoTananat · 13/10/2013 18:24

It's not means tested. Or, rather, it is but in reverse as if you don't earn over £100pw you are better off claiming CA as that is a cash benefit + stamp and this is just stamp.

It's specifically to recognise carers who don't qualify for CA due to income or assets over the limit.

Ghostsgowoooh · 13/10/2013 18:25

Income support and carers are overlapping benefits. I get both but my income support is greatly reduced.

Bit upset about this thread actually. What does the op suggest I do with disabled ds? Perhaps I should have aborted him eh. Anything to save the govt a few pennies.

Hope this thread gets deleted

pointyfangs · 13/10/2013 18:25

Stella I think it's great that you have taken things on board. Have some Cake instead of what I sent you earlier.

dandydorset · 13/10/2013 18:26

Dandy - think logically here, if a person is claiming 2 types of benefits, the DWP will know about it because the person is claiming it from the DWP!

oh so the DWP have a fool proof system,i can tell you if only it was that easy to detect fraud,and there a plenty of other ways to commit fraud

sorry but i see how your looking at this but your example isnt a fool proof method and very simplistic

im not going to have a debate about fraud and the ways and means of fraud but the benefits system is a mess on both sides of the debate,those that dont get their entitlement and jump through hoops and those that are defrauding it

Ghostsgowoooh · 13/10/2013 18:27

I also have mental disabilities and depression

BillyBanter · 13/10/2013 18:32

So many threads asking whether those poorer than ourselves should be getting so much and so few threads asking why those richer are getting so much. The propaganda is working well.

YouTheCat · 13/10/2013 18:33

Dandy, fraudulent claims account for very very little that is claimed. There is more money in the benefits pot that people are entitled to and don't claim than is claimed to defraud the system.

AnnieLobeseder · 13/10/2013 18:40

dandydorset - the OP didn't ask what she should do about someone who was claiming fraudulently. She asked why someone who is both disabled/sick and a carer should get two sets of benefits. So your post is really a red herring and irrelevant here.

IneedAsockamnesty · 13/10/2013 18:43

Carers credit does not protect you from many of the dwp/ hmrc/ uc things that CA does like the things mrsD pointed out.

CC is only I tended to protect your pension.

Dandy I'm quite happy to have a discussion about benefit fraud especially with regard to disability and carer related benefits.

dandydorset · 13/10/2013 18:47

that is why i said i wasnt going to have a debate on fraud,my original post many back did explain my thoughts on the op posting this ???

CoTananat · 13/10/2013 18:47

CA doesn't protect you from anything.

IneedAsockamnesty · 13/10/2013 18:51

It protects you from the things mrsD pointed out.

AnnieLobeseder · 13/10/2013 18:52

"So many threads asking whether those poorer than ourselves should be getting so much and so few threads asking why those richer are getting so much. The propaganda is working well."

^^This

Except I would amend it to:
So many threads asking whether those poorer than ourselves should be getting even less and so few threads asking why those richer are getting so much.