To think if you can't work you can't care either?

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So if somebody is in receipt of sickness benefits, therefore they are deemed unfit to work, they should not be entitled to carers allowance for caring for another person.

In my mind if they are fit to care for another person they are fit to work!

Opinions gratefully received

What Dawndonnaagain said, but preferably take a one way ticket.

So I assume you're suggesting the state step up to do the caring, instead of leaving an ill person to shoulder responsibilities?

Or are you just advocating saying "hmm, the person you're caring for is doing okay, so you can't really be that sick then" and removing the person's own entitlements because they're trying too hard to manage?

It's the second one, isn't it?

The logical conclusion of the OP's argument would seem to be that as she believes someone in receipt of disability benefits shouldn't be expected to be fit to be a carer, that as they can't do it...

...well, I guess as a civilized society it's up to the rest of us to pay for care, isn't it?

www.carersuk.org/help-and-advice/help-with-money/benefits-a-tax-credits/other-benefits

Read the section on ESA. It may iron out a few misinformed opinions OP

Cross-post, BigJessie said it better.

Carers save the government so much money, they should not be vilified.

The way that assessments are being done needs a massive overhaul though.

Have a , OP. I'm at your ignorance, to be honest.

My friend's husband relies on her for care. He can't use the toilet by himself, can't have a shower by himself, can barely brush his own teeth.

She's lost nearly all of her sight. She cannot work but is able to take care of her husband, for now. Once she's lost all of her sight, she will be unable to care for him, but that doesn't change the fact she's unable to work. Not least because even if she found suitable employment that fit in with her needs (which is very unlikely), her husband needs her at home.

What do you suggest that she does?

OP, I sincerely hope you are never in a position where you are too ill to work. My total insanity inducing PND left me completely incapable of working. Fortunately, I was capable of providing care for DS.

I could decide to stop working, I could not decide not to care for my baby- clearly my GP agreed and helped me realise that I was not fit to work outside the home. I will be forever grateful for his help.

Bloody hell, they really are out in force today.

It would be fab if life worked like that!

I care for my DH, who needs 24/7 attendance. On Friday night I passed out with a heart problem and had to call 999. I had to then refuse to leave with them in as I could not secure any care cover (not for lack of trying) for DH. I finally got to hospital on Saturday morning, where the doctor wanted to admit me. The only solution offered to me was for us both to be admitted, but as DH does not get basic care in hospital (starving, pressure sores, pneumonia every time) I would have had to commute from my ward to his so we decided it was less stressful for me to go home on bed rest, send my own samples to the lab, and now I am typing this from my bed with DH next to me.

I'm not working today, OP. I am not fit to work. But caring never stops. There's no back up plan, you see. There's no other option.

Annie hit on just about where I am on this. Support is often more viral than money.

And then it turned out that the government already penalises people for being sick and forcing themselves to step up to the plate.

What's the OP whinging about, eh?

vital

Omfg

usual has it spot on mnet is full of twats today.

Has the OP been back? Or did she just post utter shite and leave?

I think the OP is just an ill informed goady bitch tbh. Jake

Of course that's not always true...
For example, if a disabled mother has a disabled child - that makes her the carer for the child even though she is also receiving disability benefit. You don't need to be unable to walk to claim disability allowance and therefore you can care for someone and receive carer's allowance.

Thanks for all your opinions, I didn't quite know what to think of this situation and was canvassing opinion on the board that would give it to me no holds barred.

You are correct in assuming I do not know the intricate ins and outs of the case that prompted me to ask this, that's why I have canvassed general opinion as 1 situation is never the same as another.

Thank you to those who have given reasoned opinion, and to the ragers well FU2!

Posting to inflame, is against talk guidelines.

Just so you know before you start anymore goady threads.

Then why would you even ask? Why is it your business?

Well I know of somebody who's wheelchair dependant and who is a carer for her disabled child......by your reckoning does that child suddenly become none disabled or require less care because it's mother is also disabled ??

Yes, she came back to tell most of us to Fuck off.