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to think this is very disruptive??

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macdoodle · 13/10/2013 15:52

I probably am being unreasonable and am prepared to hear it.
My DD1 has just started secondary school, she is in the "more able class" (this is what its called by the school Hmm).
In this class, of about 20 odd, there is a boy with SN. He has an assistant for every lesson, and from what my DD tells me I guess he must have some form of autism.
But every single day, she is coming home with stories of what "X" has done. Thinks like having tantrum, which takes 20mins to calm down disrupting the lesson, shouting at the teacher, grabbing or hitting another child (and once a teacher), throwing all his books and stuff on the floor (numerous occasions), storming out of lessons etc etc.
Now the kids all seem to think this is hysterical (and great fun that almost every lesson is disrupted by "X"), but every day I am a bit Hmm, it just sounds very disruptive, and DD is starting to sound more annoyed than thinking its funny.
She does however say that is is clearly very bright indeed.
I know he has just as much right to be taught, but at the cost of disrupting a whole class of children? AIBU?? I can't quite decide TBH, and so far it doesnt appear to be affecting DD1's abilities, but we are only a term in.

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GobbySadcase · 15/10/2013 00:19

You have made a directly disablist post on this thread.
You have made shortsighted, sweeping, offensive generalisations on other threads involving biting toddlers and benefits.

Not a great history...

zzzzz · 15/10/2013 00:19

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GobbySadcase · 15/10/2013 00:24

Dunno but I hope he doesn't share the views of his missus and give the guy a good slap when he misbehaves!

AnaisHellWitch · 15/10/2013 00:26

I wonder if one day I will have to deal with someone "going after" my six year old to give him the good smack he deserves?

In the unlikely event that they got past me, he'd easily be able to finish what they started.

goingmadinthecountry · 15/10/2013 00:36

You get one go at education - if anyone is stopping you learning, they do not have a right to do so. If they learn in a different way, do not prevent you from reaching your potential and are supported if necessary, get over it - maybe you'll learn something from them. It's a lesson for life - we're all different. If it's really disrupting education, go to speak to someone.

MidniteScribbler · 15/10/2013 00:38

Bloody hell, how can anyone who assumingly has any sort of education still fail to understand person first language?

bordellosboheme · 15/10/2013 00:39

Gobby you're one of those people that searches posters' past threads. Say. no. more.

Night, and do relax. I'm anti violence, and anti intimidation. I'm not and never have been 'disablist', a term that is in and of itself, quite offensive. That is all.

GobbySadcase · 15/10/2013 00:41

I sure as hell don't.
I do notice when someone follows me round the boards being an arse, though. Forced a name change that time as I wasn't allowed to even post on baby name threads without being goaded.

5madthings · 15/10/2013 00:43

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AnaisHellWitch · 15/10/2013 00:47

Disablist is an offensive term? Halloween Confused

HeadfirstForHalos · 15/10/2013 00:48

How is disabilist an offensive term? The concept is offensive, but not the term.

bordellosboheme · 15/10/2013 00:50

The concept CONTAINS the term.

bordellosboheme · 15/10/2013 00:51

Wow, some lovely language on here (reported). You must be very proud of your vocabulary.

HeadfirstForHalos · 15/10/2013 00:53

A person being disabilist if offensive (that's you) the term is merely descriptive.

It's like the word homophobic. It just describes the offensive person.

HeadfirstForHalos · 15/10/2013 00:54

My vocabulary is just fine thank you, but when a word fits a person so perfectly I will use it.

bordellosboheme · 15/10/2013 00:57

The term is not merely descriptive, it references the original idea of disability, which in itself signifies the idea of 'norm' and 'other'.

I'm leaving now. I'm a bit bored. Some people on here don't seem to understand subtlety or nuance. It's kind of embarrassing for you. Bye! Smile

HeadfirstForHalos · 15/10/2013 00:58

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5madthings · 15/10/2013 00:59

oh the irony of you claiming disabilist is offensive when you posts inflamatory and vile posts stating you would be violent towards a child with special needs.

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HeadfirstForHalos · 15/10/2013 01:01

And some people don't have any understanding of living with special needs.

bordellosboheme · 15/10/2013 01:02

Heads your assumptions are very, very wrong.

OinkGlitter · 15/10/2013 01:28

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RawShark · 15/10/2013 05:30

What a depressing thread. I was surprised to see such a reasonable summation oinkglitter at this point! Whilst I have no answers to your question I just wanted to comment on something that personally appalled me about the thread (well, up to page 12, as I had to leave off MN to do the stuff that qualifies me as a "Mum").

a)OP asked a question. Whilst controversial (and admittedly in AIBU) I am of the opinion that open debate and asking questions is the only way to get anywhere. Rather than taking the opportunity to educate the OP on current terminology/ways that she could have offended without realising / lack of proper provision in MS and other schools a lot of people felt this justified personal attacks on her, her daughter, her professional ability and her general humanity. Generally (please fell free to count up and rebut this) these people seemed to have at least some contact with children with SN.

b)I would say that no doubt this reaction stems from the amount of shit and intolerance they have to put up with but apparently there is no excuse if you are NT for posting without thinking, or being tactless, or even being ignorant (I wish the world worked like this)

in my opinion the lack of self-awareness in people simultaneously posting both a) and b) is unbelievable. If this vitriol and energy was used more constructively and people explained rather than indulging in knee jerk abuse maybe then as oinkglitter says could get something changed?

ProphetOfDoom · 15/10/2013 06:47

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