to think this is very disruptive??

[macdoodle]

I probably am being unreasonable and am prepared to hear it.
My DD1 has just started secondary school, she is in the "more able class" (this is what its called by the school ).
In this class, of about 20 odd, there is a boy with SN. He has an assistant for every lesson, and from what my DD tells me I guess he must have some form of autism.
But every single day, she is coming home with stories of what "X" has done. Thinks like having tantrum, which takes 20mins to calm down disrupting the lesson, shouting at the teacher, grabbing or hitting another child (and once a teacher), throwing all his books and stuff on the floor (numerous occasions), storming out of lessons etc etc.
Now the kids all seem to think this is hysterical (and great fun that almost every lesson is disrupted by "X"), but every day I am a bit , it just sounds very disruptive, and DD is starting to sound more annoyed than thinking its funny.
She does however say that is is clearly very bright indeed.
I know he has just as much right to be taught, but at the cost of disrupting a whole class of children? AIBU?? I can't quite decide TBH, and so far it doesnt appear to be affecting DD1's abilities, but we are only a term in.

I wonder if, "battle fatigue via internet" will ever become a recognised condition?

I think I have it.

Bordello also has interesting sentiments on benefits, as well as advice ting violence towards children.

Just saying.

Gobby, my view on benefits is that some people in the UK abuse them, whilst the working poor struggle. But that's another thread.

Reported me? Haha that is really very funny!

Report that abhorrent disabilist post.

But from a poster who demonises a toddler that bites I am not surprised...

Yes reported you for breaking talk guidlines.

Shame as I do think there is some merit in letting posts like that stand so we can all see how vile some posters are.

5mad there's a definite pattern to this particularly delightful poster.

Indeed there is gobby

Oh and those last couple? Don't give a shit if they get deleted.

I teach a class like this (slightly younger). 14 very bright NT children and one very bright child with autism.

I also teach a class of children a year younger than the class described above with 9 academically weak NT children, 3 academically weak children with aspergers (I know you're not supposed to use that term anymore but not really sure what the current term is sorry. HFA?) and 2 academically weak children with more severe autism.

The first class (the top set) found X's behaviour hysterical for the first 2 or 3 weeks of term. They're still a bit giggly and provocative to be honest (and I include my own daughter in this criticism of the children, I'm not just being randomly mean). The second class (bottom set and a year younger) don't bat an eyelid at any unusual behaviour, they just get on with learning as best they can (which isn't easy for them at the best of times, they have real difficulties with the curriculum).

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that, ime, more able children find children with disabilities much harder to accept than less able children. Intelligence doesn't necessarily go with emotional intelligence.

At the risk of being flamed though, marrieds comment about wealthy parents 'buying' additional resources and help isn't entirely unfounded. I teach in a private school where 40%+ have some kind of additional need. Obviously you can't get a diagnosis of ASD or ADHD etc without real medical grounds but any parent can pay for an educational psychologists report on any child. They cost about £500 and certain ed psychs will write what they're paid to write. The children concerned do genuinely benefit from the extra time, laptop access etc that these reports grant them - but so would all children and certainly many of our children with AN whose parents can't shell out that amount of money. You can't underestimate what some parents will do to get their child any kind of perceived advantage. We've even had children who have been assessed inhouse as being within 'normal' parameters being pressured by parents to deliberately fail tests in order to 'prove' to us that we are wrong and their child does need such and such a thing.

Oh I give up

Oh get a life please. Relax. I am not being disableist . I have more to do with the ALN community than you realise. I am talking about child protection of others - the right to freedom from fear and freedom to learn. As an 11 year old, I would be fearful of that environment.

And thanks for dredging up past totally irrelevant posts... About biting toddlers. Just so you know, that child is still biting, the mother has failed to control it and over the summer another child was repeatedly bitten badly on the face. I was away the whole summer. In my absence it all blew up between her and some other parents. The mother has alienated herself from everyone else in the group by failing to act.

A bit like this scenario where a whole class are in fear of what will happen next. It would frighten me... As a grown adult.

Your post about autistic kids attacking people was disablist.

And reported as such, Amber.

No amber, I was quoting the OP who said the boy had attacked others in class. I was not generalising about all autistic people. For what it's worth. My dp volunteers with an autistic man every Friday. He takes my 2 year old ds with him. I wouldn't let him do that if I was worried about autistic people in general would I? I am talking particulars here, not generalising!