to think this is very disruptive??

[macdoodle]

I probably am being unreasonable and am prepared to hear it.
My DD1 has just started secondary school, she is in the "more able class" (this is what its called by the school ).
In this class, of about 20 odd, there is a boy with SN. He has an assistant for every lesson, and from what my DD tells me I guess he must have some form of autism.
But every single day, she is coming home with stories of what "X" has done. Thinks like having tantrum, which takes 20mins to calm down disrupting the lesson, shouting at the teacher, grabbing or hitting another child (and once a teacher), throwing all his books and stuff on the floor (numerous occasions), storming out of lessons etc etc.
Now the kids all seem to think this is hysterical (and great fun that almost every lesson is disrupted by "X"), but every day I am a bit , it just sounds very disruptive, and DD is starting to sound more annoyed than thinking its funny.
She does however say that is is clearly very bright indeed.
I know he has just as much right to be taught, but at the cost of disrupting a whole class of children? AIBU?? I can't quite decide TBH, and so far it doesnt appear to be affecting DD1's abilities, but we are only a term in.

Yes amberleaf, but while I do agree that people should be way more accepting of my boy's autism and learning difficulties, it is not right for me to expect a whole cinema audience to put up with him screeching so loudly that they cant hear the film. If I can teach him to be quiet, his autistic rigidity is such that he will learn "cinemas are places where I don't scream" and this may help the carer who goes with him when I am gone. That is the theory anyway

Agree niot all can learn that, hence the autism screenings are a very good thing

It would be nice if my daughters school would provide a sound field for her hearing disability or even remember she can't hear very well when I have been in numerous times to tell them. Ok, it's not a big disability but it impacts and i get fed up with her (although not often, but once is too often) telling me she 'struggled in class today' because of two or three tiny weeny adjustments that would affect no-one else.

Tracey that's bloody awful. It is tiny adjustments sometimes that make all the difference.

We have several children with hearing impairments at our school and things are adjusted to suit. One young man is deaf and he has a TA who signs. In fact his teacher and whole class learned to sign too.

Moomeleigh

Thank you for your very good, non hysteric post.

You are spot on.

hysterical*

muchado really feel for you with regard to school.

I was talking to someone from DS1's school recently and saying how bloody unfair it was that people with disabled children get so little choice in their school.

I live in a large-ish town and we have 6 secondary schools.

everyone with an NT child has their pick of the bunch. They have options.

I don't. OK, I could technically choose any of them, but he will NOT cope in mainstream- so that isn't realistically something I can do.
So my "choice" is to send him to the ONE school that has a specialist unit. Only that isn't really a choice either, because unless I can get him statemented he can't go there either

always, that is a lovely, intelligent post.

Some of the other comments on here, not so much.

This could be about my ds tbh.. He's autistic and is currently having a meltdown every day.. Only his meltdowns are aggression to himself - but the kids still talk and laugh and point :(

But I KNOW he can cope in mainstream as he did last year and the year before that.. But I also know it takes a good 3 months for him to settle and find the routine.. He is very bright and wouldn't be eligible for a SN school.

Threads like this make me :( as I can jmagine one being written about my ds.. I know it's not great for other kids to see a child in meltdown.. I assure you it's worse watching your child do it.

Thank you for the flowers and very kind words. Very much appreciated.

I don’t know if you’re still here OP and I’m not sure what you want us to say. Because if this boy is taking up as much of the teacher’s as time and is being as disruptive to the whole class as all that, not to mention aggressive to the staff, then do you really imagine the teachers have somehow failed to notice?

So it doesn’t sound like the kind of situation where your input to the school would be of any practical help to anyone, including your DD, unless you think she is somehow more affected than any of the others and the teachers don’t realise.

its quite hard to explain to a 12yr old why some things are completely unacceptable for her, but to her appear are ok for others.

Well at least explaining that is very easy – he can’t help it, presumably your DD can. Simple as. If your DD doesn’t know that by now then you really do need to spell it out to her.

omg. I think our new headteacher must be reading this thread!

collared DP at school this morning and mentioned that she really wants to start the statementing process off for DS1!!!

i am like this and

That's brilliant, Bunda.

Great news bundaberg

Headfirst - he's not too intelligent. My boy in year 5 finished year 4 assessed at 4a in Maths and an overall 3a in Literacy, despite his initial language delay and communication difficulties. Children with multiple exceptionality are no less in need of support than those who are achieving below average. If he needs support that cannot be provided without a statement, he should have a statement.

i'm so pleased. she's a qualified senco too, which is good, and she said that over the last x number of years she's only had ONE statement refused. which is, quite frankly, amazing. the one that was refused, she appealed and got.

fingers crossed!

sickof - DS1 prefers the ASD screenings, not because he can walk about (because he doesn't - he merely spends most of the time after the first half hour asking if the film's nearly finished) but because he strongly Disapproves of adverts, and the ASD screenings are ad free (and they've learnt to give warnings if the film comes with a bundled short or trailer)

headfirst i agrfee with ourvye.... your son should (technically) be considered for a statement regardless of his academic ability.

someone on the SN board pointed me towards this site which i've found pretty informative and useful

and nickname too... my son copes ok in his mainstream primary (but its a very small school, only 12 in his class) in terms of mostly managing to do some work and basically getting by. He tends not to have too many meltdowns now, he just goes and withdraws into a corner instead which while less disruptive to the rest of the class is just as disruptive to his learning as having a meltdown would be in terms of time out of his learning

But you know, coping with school isn't good enough. Our kids deserve an environment where they can do more than just "get by".. they deserve to flourish!

We did apply for a statement, but it got refused basically because he wasn't failing academically.

It was 2 years ago now, I want to reapply, also for my youngest 2 who have only recently been diagnosed. He is more disruptive now (or at least as his peers have grown it is more noticable) I so want him statemented before high school.

Really need to speak to the SENCO.

Thanks for the link too.

You'd be going after him? An 11 year old kid?

Without even knowing why it happened?

That's unacceptable. As an adult you should know better.

It's not UnPC as such..more totally ignorant