To think things like the Ten Tors should not be messed around with because of health and safety

[Ilovemyself]

The route is being changed to include less river crossings

How are young adults ( as that's what the participants are) ever going to learn when we get more risk averse every year.

Judging safety is an every day part of life, and not letting them lean will
Just mean they are less able to deal with risk
In the future.

I don'tt know what Ten Tors is , but I do know that lots of these things are dictated by insurance companies

They fiddled with the Stepping Stones in the Peak District too thank goodness

I think this is a result of the terrible incident where a girl drowned a few years ago? The event should never have run in those conditions it was atrocious.
I agree with you in priciple OP.

Shadeofviolet. Don't know the Peak District. Which was worm with the stepping stones?

The stepping stones which have been there for hundreds of years were deemed to be too uneven and a slip hazard. So they now have smooth, concrete tops. Bloody disgrace. The waters not even deep if you did fall off.

You are kidding, totally ridiculous if they do, and I can't see how they will manage to have any decent routes if they do.

the ten tors shouldn't be messed with, it not that hard to start with, and will fairly pointless if it doesn't include some basic challenges,

What next, avoid the bogs far more problematic than any of the water courses.

All the routes are lined by army supervisors anyway, and you are never more than a nats spit from help.

I do agree by the way with the sentiment of the OP. haven't people died/drowned doing The Ten Tors though? So did they look at specific crossings and decide they were too dangerous? Or would more training have been an alternative?

YANBU

When the rivers are really running fast they set up assisted crossings these days, don't they? And part of the point of Ten Tors is learning to navigate the moors and work out the best route (not the shortest route) to complete the challenge.

And the girl who drowned crossing a river in 2007 was training, rather than doing the actual event. So i'm not entirely sure how changing the event will help reduce tragic incidents like this.

Having been on the moors in some pretty shot weather it can be dire. However, I don't think specific crossings or training are normally an issue.

It is up to the organisers to ensure that on the day it is safe but as with life, you can never remove all risks.

DS2 did the 10 tors the year they were airlifted off the moor due to weather conditions..he was more peeved that he didn't get to go in a helicopter and had to walk to the nearest road to be picked up in a Thrifty Minibus!

last year it was very wet for ten tors, kids were helped over most of the crossings, but one was too fast running and they had to be re routed which added on a lot of distance / time to the trek. DS was doing the 55 miles and had about another 6 miles added if not more. It can get very unsafe up there and because of the mist and rain they were not able to have the low flying copters out so if something had gone wrong airlifting the victim (s) off could have been an issue. However I suspect it has more to do with the need to cut back on the resources it takes up to run the event.

And the girl who drowned crossing a river in 2007 was training, rather than doing the actual event. So i'm not entirely sure how changing the event will help reduce tragic incidents like this. true, the army have no responsibility for any of the training events, just on the actual day.

I loved Ten Tors when I did it. Anyone who can do it doesn't need to be mollycoddled due to a few streams