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to not understand why you would put naked photos of your dcs on FB?

129 replies

mrsgremola · 03/10/2013 19:02

That's it really.Ex work mate regularly posts pics on holiday, in the summer, of DD trying on mummy's clothes. She is 4. Completely fully naked pics where you can see everything.

I might get flamed, I know there aren't paedos on every corner but why on earth would anyone put naked photos of their children on Facebook? I wouldn't do it.

Also, and I know I am a cow, I don't particularly want to see pics of her daughter naked. Which is why I have hidden her.

OP posts:
spence82 · 04/10/2013 10:44

Its a tough one really this. My view is that yabu if you worry about paedos getting off to the pictures but yanbu about it being embarrassing for children.

Dobbiesmum · 04/10/2013 11:57

ohmymimi you're right that we've become vey squeamish about innocent child nudity and there does seem to be a massive element of 'paedos under the bed' IMO, you only have to look at the amount of hysterical warnings about child abductions on FB to see that!
However I just remember a couple of months ago when my family were sorting out all of the picture albums with my 2 older DC's. There were some frankly mortifying pictures of me in there (fully clothed) that nobody had seen for years, DH hadn't even seen most of them! It's hard to describe how mortified I was by some of them tbh, if I had my way some of them would be burnt Grin. These were private pictures only seen by my family, if they were on the internet it would have felt so much worse and I'm 38.
This is in part why there will never be naked pics of my DC's on the web, anywhere. We have a few funny ones, a pic of DS when younger copying his Dad on the toilet springs to mind -nude and reading the newspaper-, but it won't be made public even though it's cute and funny. Basically that isn't my call to make, even though they're young they still have a right to privacy, if they want to share pics like that when they're adults that wil be their choice. It isn't my right to put potentially embarrassing pictures anywhere, it's theirs.
OP, YANBU.

Tuonz · 04/10/2013 12:14

Anyone else reminded of Blind Faith by Ben Elton?

pigletmania · 04/10/2013 12:44

Ohmy that is totally different. Facebook is a public medium, any picture posted on it will stay on the world wide web forever. Privacy settings on facebook are not 100%, and as somebody has pointed out you do not know what Facebook does with the pictures. There are people that get off on any pictures of children, especially nacked ones. Would you want all and sundry seeing pictures of your child in a vulnerable position, who cannot give their consent! as a parent you have to protect your child as they are not able to do so, posting nacked pictures of your Chid is not doing so.

Yes I have my children running around the house and garden nacked, but I would never put those pictures in a public domain where I cannot control them and thir viewing and circulation!

pigletmania · 04/10/2013 12:46

I totally agree dobbies

herethereandeverywhere · 04/10/2013 19:04

I'm with Opalite and ohmymini on this.

On the paedo issue the problem lies with the paedo, not the photo. There is nothing embarrassing or wrong about a naked child, the media-generated paedomania is doing its best to put pay to this. We need children to know their bodies and their complete comfort with them is natural, not shameful or wrong.

On the consent issue, naked or not all pics of your children are taken without their consent as they are unable to give it themselves. I'm consenting for them. I'm sure my daughter will be mortified by the Xmas pudding outfit age 3 months. I'm hoping to raise a person who has better things to worry about and enough self-esteem to put it in perspective.

On the privacy issue, you can completely lock down your facebook page if you want to. The fact that facebook has some vague wording about rights to use my images doesn't bother me. How many millions of facebook users are there? I'm flattering myself to think they'd be interested in a few shots of my family on a beach or whatever.

On the 'tragedy' issue. Really?!! I shouldn't post pictures of my child in case they get abducted or murdered and the media use the image??? Well, I suppose that means they'd use them if they got struck by lightning too. FFS. I hope to never be put in that horrendous position but if I was I can bet I'd be thinking about things other than photograph copyright issues.

Naked children are normal and healthy and beautiful and totally at ease with themselves, images of this simply reflect this. Projecting adult issues onto those children is the problem, not the image itself.

Sleepyhead33 · 04/10/2013 19:22

Herethereand... Well I hope your child feels exactly the same as you then! Unfortunately, teens don't always feel the same way about a subject as their parents want them to.

DoNotTellMeWhatToDo · 04/10/2013 19:41

Piglet, please stop spelling it 'nacked' that's really annoying me. Grin

pigletmania · 04/10/2013 19:49

Here I totally disagree with you, jst because I do not agree with naked pictures of children on social media does not mean I am disgusted by naked children. You are being very blasé, and quite naive tbh. By putting naked pictures of your children on Facebook your exposing them to unsavoury characters. Yes they are out there and quite prevailant

moustachio · 04/10/2013 19:52

shakeandvac quite the contrary. When i was at uni a few years ago baby pictures were 'cool'. Lots of my friends has photos of themselves in cheesy jumpers aged 2 in front of the xmas tree as their profile picture. Or in shades with captions 'i've always been cool' or in a hideous dress 'my fashion sense hasn't improved obvs'.

moogy1a I can just imagine it. "Sir we can't hire him, i've found naked party pictures of him on the internet. He was two at the time and it was a childrens birthday, but a leopard doesn't change it's spots!"

FredFredGeorge · 04/10/2013 19:59

If it's about the childs privacy, then the fact they're naked shouldn't make any difference, the complaint should be about their being any photos. So YABU.

mollygibson · 04/10/2013 19:59

You wouldn't like it if somebody put naked photos of YOU on Facebook so why is it OK to do that to children? Do they not have a right to privacy and dignity too?

I would absolutely hate it if my parents had done that to me.

What if some of their classmates saw the photo?

Mintyy · 04/10/2013 20:02

Yanbu. I just think people are too thick to think it through. Fools.

pigletmania · 04/10/2013 20:08

I agree Molly

AintNobodyGotTimeFurThat · 04/10/2013 20:35

I don't have a problem with others posting up pictures of their children naked, except that I would be horrified on their behalf in 10 years time if they came across them.

But other than that, I don't really see a problem as such. There are predators at parks, on the internet and living next door to you [potentially] it makes them no less or more likely to target your child.

I wouldn't post up pictures of my daughter naked because I wouldn't want her to think I was posting pictures of her nude for my friends to see when she is older. I imagine she'd have liked me to keep her modesty in that respect.

I don't think there is as much issue if a little boy say, has his top half nude though. I mean that's what grown men do at the beach, so not that much different, really.

MistressDeeCee · 04/10/2013 21:49

Im in no way worried or offended about the innocent nudity of children. I simply dont see why that has to be shown off on FB. I have to wonder what some parents are fighting for but its not the protection of children, is it. That being the case, show your child off to all & sundry, dont worry about who is watching or near them, and get real busy accusing anyone who thinks its a weird form of showing off, of being paranoid about paedophiles.

herethereandeverywhere · 04/10/2013 22:14

My pictures of my child are nothing to be afraid or ashamed of. The images are no different to the children themselves. Believing that not putting some pictures on facebook will protect them from 'unsavory characters' is naive in the extreme, in fact it's laughable. I'm fighting for what's normal. Naked children are normal. Photos of my kids enjoying themselves, naked, are normal as are those of anyone else's kids, it's what kids do! The obsession with paedos at very turn, round every corner, assuming the very worst extreme outcome is what is wrong.

Every time I put my child into a car there is a very real, measurable chance that they will be killed, horribly. No-one is proposing that we ban cars. Because they are a normal part of every day life and the chance of my children befalling something bad is very small (although greater than abduction by a paedophile). This is a sensible approach to the deadly risk of 'cars'. Withholding naked photographs of children is the same proposition as banning cars.

herethereandeverywhere · 04/10/2013 22:20

MistressDC "dont worry about who is watching or near them" - how does this relate to images on facebook? How do naked images of my kids on facebook translate into my not worrying about who is 'watching or near them'? I still don't see how facebook photos change that one iota.

Would clothed photos of them on facebook make it okay? Why are they safer? All children are naked under their clothes as paedos are no doubt aware.

lagertops · 04/10/2013 22:26

How are you meant to teach your child that their body is their own private property and only for trusted loved ones to see if you're taking it upon yourself to broadcast it online? I mean, what if one day they want to pull their pants down in a shopping centre? You'd be a hypocrite to tell them off, surely.

YANBU

herethereandeverywhere · 04/10/2013 22:32

"Pulling their pants down in a shopping centre" is inappropriate, so that's exactly what I teach my kids (who incidentally have shown no signs of lacking in detecting social norms due to my facebook page) Hmm

lagertops · 04/10/2013 22:35

All this crap RE 'naked children are healthy and beautiful...' PLEASE! You could argue that naked adults are normal, clothes are a by-product of civilisation, that doesn't mean people should go around with their fanjos and todgers out on display. At a young age kids should be taught about manners and decorum and what is appropriate.

lagertops · 04/10/2013 22:36

herethereandeverywhere Why is it inappropriate in a shopping centre? Because other people might not want to see your child without clothes?

pigletmania · 04/10/2013 22:41

Here would you put naked pictures of yourself on Facebook, after all there is nothing so beautiful and natural. If you are nt prepared to put pictures of yourself naked on Facebook, than the same applies tochildren.

herethereandeverywhere · 04/10/2013 22:43

Because no-one walks around shopping centres naked lagertops, as I said, it's not appropriate (if you look carefully we agreed in those two posts up there^ on that point). Do you think naked children are shameful and wrong? Being naked as an 18 month old is ill-mannered? My 3 year old lacks decorum on the beach? Do you think I should keep them covered at all times? Why?

DaleyBump · 04/10/2013 22:43

Agree with lagertops.