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My friends think I'm BU in asking them to change our restaurant plans for my DD

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EweHaveGoatToBeKiddin · 28/09/2013 10:31

Last week my 4 friends and I arranged to go out for dinner tonight. Not for anything special, just because we haven't see each other in ages and fancied a catch up.

I told them that i wouldn't be able to get a babysitter and they said that they expected and wanted me to bring 5yo dd along as they were missing her too.

Anyway, we emailed each other links to various local restaurants so we could check out prices and menus. We all agreed on an Italian place.

So i printed off the menu a few days ago and have been going over it with dd. I've let her pick her meal in advance and we've 'practiced' how to behave in the restaurant and I've shown her pictures of it online. We've also discussed things she can do while waiting for the food being served such as taking a colouring book or reading book. She's been to restaurants before and loves doing her little script of saying hello and ordering from the waiter/waitress. But because this is a new place, i wanted her to be prepared to prevent her getting too anxious.

Anyway, all was going well until this morning when i awoke to another group email. One of my friends have said that she was at an Italian restaurant last night with her parents and can't really face another Italian meal. Another friend chipped in with 'Yeah, i feel the same. TBH i'm not really into pizza and pasta anyway. How about a Chinese place?'

So then a dozen other emails followed containing various links for local Chinese places. By the time i'd managed to compose a polite email, everyone was pretty much set on a certain Chinese place.

I'd had a look on the website, and tbh there's nothing there that dd would eat. She doesn't like things with batter, not much of a meat eater, doesn't like spicy things, doesn't like chips, doesn't like rice, noodles or curries etc. And I'm not really keen on anything there either, but would have put up with it if dd wasn't involved too.

Anyway, i sent them a message explaining that i felt it was a bit short notice to be changing plans. DD was already prepared for the Italian place, had selected her meal, had been going on about it for days, had already seen all the pictures of the restaurant's interior. And that she wouldn't eat anything from there anyway.

They came back with the following responses:

"Feed her before she comes then just get her an ice cream or something while we're all eating."

My response to this: "But she was really looking forward to eating out with us, and tbh i don't think i can make ice cream last 2 hours."

"If she gets a bit antsy, we don't mind."

"It's not just a case of her getting 'antsy', it's the fact I'm going to be changing her plans with only a half day's notice, and all that preparation I'd done last week was for nothing. She will be incredibly anxious and upset for the whole meal."

"Bring her a toy to stop her getting bored."

"She can't play with toys alone. And she's already picked a colouring book to bring, but I don't think that will keep her calm and amused for 2 hours."

"Fine. We'll just go the Italian place."

This is then followed by a few 'pffffts' and eye roll smilies.

I feel horrid and guilty. Tbh i want to send them an email just saying that I'd rather they all went to their Chinese place and we could rearrange a group meal for another time. but if i do, it'll just be met with passive aggressive. "Don't be silly, we wouldn't dream of it' etc etc.

I actually don't want to go at all now. Or I'd rather just me and dd head out for a meal. if i do go, the whole atmosphere will be off and it will be like i dragged them all along. And when it comes to ordering, they will probably huff and puff about it because they've openly said they don't want to eat anything from there.

I genuinely don't know who's being unreasonable here. the fact I'm feeling so guilty about it makes me think that I'm the one in the wrong, but then again i feel guilty about everything. Blush

OP posts:
AnandaTimeIn · 02/10/2013 01:24

Honestly, this is weird.

You have a dinner with friends but your 5 year old gets to call the shots? (so to speak)...

That is the quickest way to lose your friends.

Get granny/neighbour/best friend/teenager's pocket money/ to babysit and go out for dinner.

Just because you have a child doesn't mean you get to decide how it all works out for a night out with your friends.

The more you expect them to do that, the sooner they will drop you, just when you might need them when it really matters....

single mum of 22 years, never expected anyone to bend over backwards for me

MidniteScribbler · 02/10/2013 01:32

Oh my god. ::head desk::

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 02/10/2013 01:40

Ananda. RtFt.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 02/10/2013 02:03

OP, this is so late that you probably won't read it, but I've been thinking about your thread all night, and FWIW:

Why on earth are you being so OTT when...

No. Sorry, that's not what I was going to say because I HAVE SOME FUCKING EMPATHY AND ALSO I HAVE READ THE FUCKING THREAD.

What really strikes me is that: you are a solo parent. With a very young, autistic daughter. And no family support at all (seriously, your parents? Can't find one evening to babysit for you until 2014? SERIOUSLY?). And your friends, who do sound lovely actually, are single and childless and do not get it. And yet, you sound so very un-self-pitying, to the point where these facts are being dismissed by twats who like to pile in even the posters who are genuinely sympathetic to you.

I think Walter is right, and there's been miscommunication and everyone is well-meaning. I would, as she suggests, send a break-the-ice email, because my lovely, you are very alone, and I'm worried that your own sense of not wanting to be any trouble is potentially going to make that worse. And I'm sure your friends really do love you and want you and your DD in their lives.

And also, I wish I could babysit for you, you poor thing!

Thumbwitch · 02/10/2013 02:13
Bunbaker · 02/10/2013 06:58

"Get granny/neighbour/best friend/teenager's pocket money/ to babysit and go out for dinner."

Read the thread FGS

Pagwatch · 02/10/2013 07:12

I think auto-highlighting the OPs posts might help to be honest.

Although I suspect some dullards would still just read the OP and add their fuckwittery at the end anyway.

YouTheCat · 02/10/2013 07:16

I don't think some people have even managed to read the OP in its entirety.

Threalamandaclarke · 02/10/2013 07:20

ananda how very nice for you that you had so much help and babysitting options when your child was small.
Did you mean to post on a different thread? Because your comment has no relevance to this op (or anyone who has agreed dinner plans that include their daughter and doesn't need them changing last minute on someone else's whim.

Well said tortoise

ConfusedandDazed24 · 02/10/2013 08:21

Ananda seriously?!

Goldmandra · 02/10/2013 08:34

Assuming they all know your DD has Autism and you've explained in the past how it affects her YANBU.

If they want to include your DD in the meal they need to accept and make allowances for her disability. It isn't just a case of managing her and putting up with her 'getting antsy'.

For a start she has the right to enjoy the meal too and changing the venue at short notice could well make that impossible.

Also, if she starts to lose it you'll have to leave and that will spoil the meal for everyone.

It's a difficult situation in that, if your friends don't realise the preparation involved with a meal out like this, explaining could make you sound even more unreasonable and rather PFB.

I would arrive and thank everyone quite clearly and openly for agreeing to change the venue back and tell them all how lovely it is that you have friends you can rely on to make sure your DD is able to join in occasions like this without being too stressed to enjoy them. Big smile and hugs all round.

SilverApples · 02/10/2013 08:38

Considering the number of gormless posters on this thread, I'm beginning to understand how the OP can be friends with people who know her and her daughter and still haven't got a clue.
She's been trying to explain to them, and they've been wool-gathering until they had the chance to say what they wanted to with no reference to the previous conversation.

Goldmandra · 02/10/2013 08:46

Sorry Blush

I did that stupid thing of getting to the end of the first page and thinking it was the end of the thread.

Threalamandaclarke · 02/10/2013 08:51

"she has the right to enjoy the meal too"
Another good one. Goldmandra

cheeseandpineapple · 02/10/2013 09:16

I agree with Tortoise and Walter. OP, it sounds like you have good friends albeit they don't fully get your situation. Suspect they were probably just doing some mock being put out/eye rolling when you were discussing the restaurant which you've become sensitive to as you don't want to be difficult or be seen as a party pooper.

Clear the air and don't wait for others to organise something, although that would be lovely, if no one's said anything, take the initiative eg "Hi girls, sorry we didn't get together on Saturday night and for any confusion, I get anxious on behalf of DD because of her autism and how she reacts to change which is why I stuck to the Italian but I didn't want to put you all out and think I was being a pain in the arse. Really would love to see you all. It's my birthday on Sunday, how about coming over/meeting for lunch and we can have that catch up. Need you guys to help cheer me up about getting another year older.. Let me know if you're around and up for doing something"

Happy Birthday for Sunday and bet you're still a whippersnapper compared to some of us on this thread!

YouHaveAGoodPoint · 02/10/2013 09:23

cheeseandPinapple s note is perfect.

KittiesInsane · 02/10/2013 09:37

I'm a little in love with the OP after reading this thread Blush.

TheBigJessie · 02/10/2013 09:41

You heard it here first folks.

A child's needs can never trump an adult's, even when the child is disabled.

Apparently, the worst thing anyone can ever do, ever, is to put their own child's needs above the wants of another adult. Hmm

By the way, Tortoise is totally, totally right, and unlike many, many other people, she managed to post on a pretty long thread and add a new, constructive point that hadn't been put forth yet.

ithaka · 02/10/2013 09:46

OP - please don't have a lonely lunch on your birthday wondering why your friends haven't contacted you - contact them.

It was clearly all a misunderstanding with fault on all sides (I would have been confused by your email as to where the final plan was to eat). So put it behind you and move on.

Why not email your friends with a nice suggestion of where you can all meet for lunch on your birthday?

HotDogWater · 02/10/2013 22:19

OP you sound like such a sweetie

Thumbwitch · 02/10/2013 23:55

Another vote for cheeseandpineapple's note to your friends, OP. I hope you do manage to clear the air with them and see them on your birthday but I agree that you might have to be a bit proactive with them about it.
:)

EweHaveGoatToBeKiddin · 03/10/2013 00:51

Thank you everyone. One of my friends text me out of the blue today - just as i was toying over sending out my replica of the above message - asking what my plans were for my birthday. Unfortunately they're quite busy with work Sun afternoon, but she will try and get the others to settle on an evening sometime early next week. So that's something to look forward to. Grin

Seriously, thank you for all your lovely replies. They've made me feel heaps better about things hopes i don't resemble a block of cheddar too much

OP posts:
waltermittymissus · 03/10/2013 00:55

Aw I'm so pleased! Enjoy your day knowing you have a nice catch up to look forward to! :)

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 03/10/2013 01:07

That's great news, Ewe, I'm very pleased for you.

Thumbwitch · 03/10/2013 07:52

Hurrah! Sounds like everything is cool with your friends anyway so you can modify your message appropriately :)

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