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My friends think I'm BU in asking them to change our restaurant plans for my DD

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EweHaveGoatToBeKiddin · 28/09/2013 10:31

Last week my 4 friends and I arranged to go out for dinner tonight. Not for anything special, just because we haven't see each other in ages and fancied a catch up.

I told them that i wouldn't be able to get a babysitter and they said that they expected and wanted me to bring 5yo dd along as they were missing her too.

Anyway, we emailed each other links to various local restaurants so we could check out prices and menus. We all agreed on an Italian place.

So i printed off the menu a few days ago and have been going over it with dd. I've let her pick her meal in advance and we've 'practiced' how to behave in the restaurant and I've shown her pictures of it online. We've also discussed things she can do while waiting for the food being served such as taking a colouring book or reading book. She's been to restaurants before and loves doing her little script of saying hello and ordering from the waiter/waitress. But because this is a new place, i wanted her to be prepared to prevent her getting too anxious.

Anyway, all was going well until this morning when i awoke to another group email. One of my friends have said that she was at an Italian restaurant last night with her parents and can't really face another Italian meal. Another friend chipped in with 'Yeah, i feel the same. TBH i'm not really into pizza and pasta anyway. How about a Chinese place?'

So then a dozen other emails followed containing various links for local Chinese places. By the time i'd managed to compose a polite email, everyone was pretty much set on a certain Chinese place.

I'd had a look on the website, and tbh there's nothing there that dd would eat. She doesn't like things with batter, not much of a meat eater, doesn't like spicy things, doesn't like chips, doesn't like rice, noodles or curries etc. And I'm not really keen on anything there either, but would have put up with it if dd wasn't involved too.

Anyway, i sent them a message explaining that i felt it was a bit short notice to be changing plans. DD was already prepared for the Italian place, had selected her meal, had been going on about it for days, had already seen all the pictures of the restaurant's interior. And that she wouldn't eat anything from there anyway.

They came back with the following responses:

"Feed her before she comes then just get her an ice cream or something while we're all eating."

My response to this: "But she was really looking forward to eating out with us, and tbh i don't think i can make ice cream last 2 hours."

"If she gets a bit antsy, we don't mind."

"It's not just a case of her getting 'antsy', it's the fact I'm going to be changing her plans with only a half day's notice, and all that preparation I'd done last week was for nothing. She will be incredibly anxious and upset for the whole meal."

"Bring her a toy to stop her getting bored."

"She can't play with toys alone. And she's already picked a colouring book to bring, but I don't think that will keep her calm and amused for 2 hours."

"Fine. We'll just go the Italian place."

This is then followed by a few 'pffffts' and eye roll smilies.

I feel horrid and guilty. Tbh i want to send them an email just saying that I'd rather they all went to their Chinese place and we could rearrange a group meal for another time. but if i do, it'll just be met with passive aggressive. "Don't be silly, we wouldn't dream of it' etc etc.

I actually don't want to go at all now. Or I'd rather just me and dd head out for a meal. if i do go, the whole atmosphere will be off and it will be like i dragged them all along. And when it comes to ordering, they will probably huff and puff about it because they've openly said they don't want to eat anything from there.

I genuinely don't know who's being unreasonable here. the fact I'm feeling so guilty about it makes me think that I'm the one in the wrong, but then again i feel guilty about everything. Blush

OP posts:
Peacocklady · 29/09/2013 22:30

You sound like a lovely mum!

I think the second text you sent may have been a bit confusing though as the original exchange had ended with everyone agreeing to the Italian again. You then sent saying you'd be going there but they should go for a Chinese, kind of telling them to go away and sounding a bit, well, off with them.

Thumbwitch · 30/09/2013 00:52

Don't ANY of you have a mobile phone that you could have used to text/call each other on? Confused

I would have sent a "text to many" to each of them, saying that you were in the Italian as your DD was not able to change to Chinese, and that if any of them wanted to join you there you'd be pleased to see them but you would fully understand if they wanted to go to the Chinese place instead.

Then, and I don't really understand why they couldn't have worked it out themselves either, they could have maybe SPOKEN to each other and decided what to do.

Sheesh.

Anyway, I'm glad you and DD had a good meal out, even if she was a bit disappointed that the friends didn't show up.

pigletmania · 30/09/2013 00:52

Mabey ewe you should tell them, as they are nt aware if h something like this can imact on her, and the level of reparation she needs. They sound really young with very little experience of sn so tey do not have a clue. Next time you have a night at yours, tell them!

Threalamandaclarke · 30/09/2013 07:38

OP you already know that i think YWNBU in wanting to keep to the Italian.
But I think your e mail to your friends might have come over as a bit flouncy to them. I am guessing that you didn't feel confident in making them keep to the original plan. I can understand that as I personally don't like to feel that ppl are following my plans under duress, which is why I would have considered staying at home. But if there is a next time maybe just remember that's it's ok to say " No, I'd rather eat at 'Gino's thanks" and to have your choices or your dd's choices to be given as much consideration as anyone else's.

MokuMoku · 30/09/2013 07:45

I did think the OP's text was a bit passive aggressive but so was the reply of 'you decided what we were all doing'.

It seems the friendships mean a lot to the OP so I would suggest a group text saying sorry for the confusion last night, you appreciate it is frustrating sometimes having to deal with your daughter's needs but it is hard for you too and you hope they understand.

pigletmania · 30/09/2013 08:15

Exactly op did not explain the situation tothem of her dd needs, therefore could have come across as controlling and flouncy were as that was anything but te truth. I am sure if you sent a group e mail or text explaing they would be very understanding. How can they help if they are not aware! Not everyone is aware of how autism impacts on children and your life. It sounds as though you are all good friends, so talk to them! I would do this with my dd6 who has ASD, I am very open with my friends about her difficulties, so they know the score

pigletmania · 30/09/2013 08:28

Just re read your op again, do they know that she has Autism and this is a big deal.

eddiemairswife · 30/09/2013 11:09

What thumbwitch said. Why on earth don't you phone each other when things get complicated?

EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 30/09/2013 11:11

You fucked it up when you sent the email saying they could go have Chinese. And why email? You could have text or phoned. Or you could have just said lightly 'sorry about making you eat Italian again, but you understand how dd is with plans changing' once you got there and it wouldn't have been a thing. You ruined the planned evening by overthinking it and assuming that they were all pissed off with you. I doubt they were anyway.

Hopemore · 30/09/2013 11:12

OTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Hopemore · 30/09/2013 11:15

ooops, didn't read the drip feeding before posting.

In this case OP, why didn't you just invited them to your house anyway?
You could cook some italian and chinese, or buy take away

well, that is what I would have done in your situation.

my own dd is 6, she isn't anxious, always go to different restaurants since new born, and I wouldn't take her to dinner with my friends...

waltermittymissus · 30/09/2013 11:21

Hope the OP has explained, quite a lot, why they went out, why her daughter was there etc. etc.

Have a read through her replies and you'll get the jist.

Hopemore · 30/09/2013 11:22

apologies

Threalamandaclarke · 30/09/2013 11:41

I often prefer to be at home. It's so much easier with kids ime.

Rudejude7 · 30/09/2013 12:04

Please let us know what you did. IMO YWNBU my DS won't touch anything Chinese or spicy but would live off pasta given half the chance!

Threalamandaclarke · 30/09/2013 12:37

ewe went for Italian with her dd I think.

NicknameIncomplete · 30/09/2013 13:10

I hope it was just mis communication & it sorts itself out.

I am off out for tea this week. My friends know that dd & i come as a package most of the time unless it is a special event or i decide to leave dd at home. They dont mind or if they do they havent said anything & the invitations havent stopped.

What i am trying to say is why is children tagging along such a bad thing as some people have made out.

pigletmania · 30/09/2013 14:11

Your friends if tey were good ones, which they said you are, so should know your dd and her difficulties. As adults the should have been flexible and gone to th Italian

DanielSan · 01/10/2013 12:49

Sorry for just doing a skip to the end, but what the hell do you think children in China eat??? Pizza????

MistressDeeCee · 01/10/2013 13:18

Theres wrong on both sides here OP - youre too anxious, and transferring this anxiety to your DD who probably would have been ok in a Chinese restaurant; such restaurants sell English food too, are happy to do smaller portions etc. Its no biggie. I dont actually think your friends are that bad. They wanted to include your daughter - some friends wouldnt want a child tagging along at all. So theyve that in their favour & I hope you can sort this out. Whilst they have been inconsiderate re. last minute change, they dont sound meanminded at all and I fail to see why you and your daughter cant just go out for a nice meal with your friends - wherever it may be. Unless you have an aversion to Chinese food? Change there may have been, but its still about going out to eat at a restaturant. All thats changed is the venue and the type of food. Your daughter will cope if you are calm.

outtolunchagain · 01/10/2013 13:19

Mistress did you see that the dd has ASD ?

Deflatedballoonbelly · 01/10/2013 13:23

You are the anxious one. If you are not careful your child will have anxiety, Learnt behaviour?

waltermittymissus · 01/10/2013 13:28

Merciful Jesus!

RTFT FFS!!!

Thumbwitch · 01/10/2013 13:29

Sauvignon it was this thread that inspired me to suggest auto-highlighting of the OP's posts so that people who only bother to read the OP don't make inappropriate comments :)

ConfusedandDazed24 · 01/10/2013 13:29

HOW is this still happening?! RTFT!!!!

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