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to feel positively evangelical about electronic cigarettes?

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 15:07

I was reading the AIBU thread about the husband vaping in the house with a newborn. I was struck by the passionate testimonials from former smokers, saying they couldn't have done it without e-cigs. I had tried a puff one of those things that look like a cigarette and was underwhelmed. But I didn't know about the more advanced set ups where you can fill them up with your flavour of choice. Anyway, I was intrigued. I smoked a pack a day for 25 years, and never quit more than a few months at a time, no matter which methods I tried.

nb84 encouraged me to give it a try and told me what to buy to get started.

I ordered a starter kit that night. It arrived the next day and I fell in love. I have three of them, now (one always charging, one near to hand, and one in my purse ready to go) and eight different flavours of the juice.

I don't want to smoke cigarettes any more. I like this better. It tastes really good. It feels good. And it doesn't stink. My hands, clothing, and breath don't reek anymore. I don't have to keep going outside. I don't have to feel like a smelly pariah. My husband can't smell it even when I'm sitting right next to him.

And I don't have to try and not think about the fact that my mother died of cancer after spending her last decade debilitated by emphysema.

And instead of paying £8 a day for fags, I can buy a week's worth of juice for £10. The hardware was less than £20 to get started and will require only £10 a month going forward. Of course, I can spend more. Many people geek out on it as a hobby because the gadgets are fun and constantly improving.

I'm not worried about putting on weight like people usually do when giving up the cancer sticks. In fact, I snack less. I no longer crave sweets. I would normally nibble all day, especially Haribo sweets. I don't want them anymore because I am tasting a bunch of sweet flavours all day long.

I'm so happy that I want to tell everyone - every smoker and everyone who loves a smoker - about it. Grin

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teenagetantrums · 27/09/2013 17:57

waterlego, I have just been looking on the forums im so confused I had to have a break and go out for fag, Smile. I have no clue what to order.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:02

^"Fantastic, thank you Katy.

I have in my shopping cart: two of those ego blister packs you linked to (so that I can have one on charge while using the other (as suggested upthread), and three bottles of juice- 5ml each. Is that all I need to get started? And how long will that 'last' in comparison to smoking cigarettes?

Sorry for all the questions! Have looked at one of the vaping forums and now my head hurts with all the technical/scientific terms...some people seem to have a great many different bits of kit. And someone was on about having gloves to wear while you're filling cartridges or suchlike. I'm a bit baffled."^

Gloves aren't necessary, but don't rub your eyes until you've washed your hands.

What you've put in the cart is perfect. I don't know how long it will last because that depends on how furiously you puff. 5ml seems to last heavy vapers a day. What nicotine level did you get? For a pack a day, they recommend 18mg or maybe even a bit more.

The refillable atomizer tank things last a couple of weeks before burning out. They cost about £4. You will learn about options that are cheaper or pricier or better quality, etc. Plenty of time for that.

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MistressDeeCee · 27/09/2013 18:02

OP Im just as evangelical about it as you are Smile Id been smoking for 28 years. Tried electronic cigs 6 months ago and havent looked back, its the only thing thats worked for me. Id done patches, tablets, the lot.

No more hair, clothes, my house stinking of smoke. I can talk to people without worrying whether the smoke smell is bothering them. No more standing outside venues/events freezing, having a smoke Smile I feel fitter. & best of all, it works out cheaper. The government and tobacco companies are just jumping up & down because e cigs are eating into their profits. Ive read stuff online about them being dangerous...yeah, right..and cigarettes arent?

I use the type that actually looks like a cigarette, has a red tip too. The flavour is USA tobacco..you have a battery (ie the white part of the cigarette) & you screw the brown cartridge into the top..the cartridges come in a pack of 5 £10 per pack but they last a good while. They have a USB charger which makes things really easy. I order online once a week & thats it. I'll never go back to smoking real cigs & wish Id made the change years ago

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waterlego6064 · 27/09/2013 18:02

You and me both teenage!

Thanks Katy, you've been so helpful.

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MrsBennetsEldest · 27/09/2013 18:03

And for £200 you can have hypnotherapy and be free of fags and ecigs for good. With ecigs you have just replaced one compulsion with another.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:04

If you can't make heads or talse of the written info, look for a vape shop near you and go in with questions. It's much easier when someone is explaining it in person.

Avoid market stalls or pushy guys at kiosks in malls. a proper independent vape shop run by an enthusiast is best. You can try before you buy and sample yummy flavours.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:06

Also, the word "eGo" is good. It's not a brand, but a type of threading that means parts are interchangeable.

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teenagetantrums · 27/09/2013 18:06

I have had hypnotherapy last three months and started again.

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Beastofburden · 27/09/2013 18:06

mrsB if hypnotherapy always worked for everyone then everyone would always do it.

Like, say, taking antibiotics.

Glad it worked for you, but it doesn't always. What may be exciting about eCigs is they may work for everyone. Essentially, a cure for the worst side of smoking.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:07

"And for £200 you can have hypnotherapy and be free of fags and ecigs for good. With ecigs you have just replaced one compulsion with another."

Hogwash. If it were that damned easy, don't you think everyone would have done it?

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waterlego6064 · 27/09/2013 18:09

It didn't work for me MrsBennets. I did stop for a month but then started again. The hypno cost £120. If I had to do that once a month, that's twice the cost of my smoking.

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HalfSpamHalfBrisket · 27/09/2013 18:10

I stopped smoking after using one of these, I think they are brilliant. I still have it on standby in case I go on a big night out & drink enough to think smoking would be a good idea - the ecig means I can have a few drags and not have to wake up stinking of smoke and beating myself up for having smoked.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:11

I apoligize for all the typos. I am NOT drunk. I just have a broken arm that makes typing hard.:smile:

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MistressDeeCee · 27/09/2013 18:11

I like smoking. Its as simple as that, for me. That being the case, Id rather smoke ecigs than cancer sticksSmile

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Beastofburden · 27/09/2013 18:12

Katy a little bonus is that arm will heal faster if you are valuing and not smoking :)

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Beastofburden · 27/09/2013 18:13

Vaping, even

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MrsBennetsEldest · 27/09/2013 18:13

My therapy came with 5 year backup so if needs must I can go back.

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Beastofburden · 27/09/2013 18:14

Good for you mrs b and I hope it goes well. But it just isn't reliable enough for a whole nation full of smokers to give up using that method.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:15

I didn't even really like smoking. I never liked the taste. I just felt compelled to keep doing it.

But I positively LOVE vaping.

I also noticed that I enjoy playing with the vapour. I always used to exhale smoke forcefully and quickly just to get the vile stuff away from me.

But the vapour is fun. I may even learn to blow smoke rings! Wink

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:17

beast I wonder if everyone could switch to vaping? I think a few people just can't get on with it, but I believe the vast majority of them just haven't found the right vape for them, yet.

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StayAwayFromTheEdge · 27/09/2013 18:18

Katy - that is the response of an addict I'm afraid.

Most responsible smokers will smoke away from children - at the back door etc. Ecigs are being used everywhere and normalising it impressionable young people.

Ask yourself - would you be happy for your child to use an Ecig?

Nicotine is well known to raise blood pressure and heart rate which is an issue with patients with CVD - yes eCigs are probably safer, but there is no evidence to say they are safe.

It is very hard to quit alone - champix with good support from trained advisors is the what is needed.

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cranberryorange · 27/09/2013 18:18

I'm another one thats ditched the fags after 27 years of 20-30 a day using an E cig which i first saw recommended on MN.

Nobody thought i would do it having tried everything else on the market to give up but the swap over was surprisingly easy.

I've got the Totally wicked E Go C twist and am currently vaping vanilla.

I had my last fag on the 18th January and havent ever thought of buying a pack of 20.

My dose of nicotine has gone from 18 down to 6 so hopefully by Xmas i will be on the nicotine free dose.

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Beastofburden · 27/09/2013 18:22

katy I think it is too soon to tell. The vaping technology and products will develop so much in the next ten years. I daresay there will
always be a hard core of "old fashioned" smokers but they may become a minority interest group.

Of course the vaping thing is really a reinvention of the old Hubble bubble technology, I think, in which the nicotine is dissolved in water vapour. Interesting to see these old customs re interpreted.

Bt I am excited to imagine a world in which 80% of smokers can use something that keeps them relatively safe and minimises the effects on their friends.

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Llareggub · 27/09/2013 18:26

I'm a week without cigarettes using the Stoptober campaign. I started smoking again in December after giving up for 10 years. I've tried ecigs but they don't work for me. The way I give up is to change my routine.

I've had cravings but I think (for me anyway) it is better to find something else to do rather than replace smoking with vaping.

If anyone wants to stop I really do recommend the stoptober app and pack.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 18:26

Of course I'm an addict. That's the problem. And, no, I wouldn't want my kids to take up vaping. But I sure don't want them to take up smoking, and that's what is more likely to happen if I don't vape. Because I will just smoke again.

I've quit for months at a time, before. Usually just for a few days or weeks, but I've gone longer. Most smokers have had the same experience.

Champix is not without serious side effects and you don't stay on it forever. It just helps you stop. It doesn't cure you of the underlying addiction that causes relapse. Plenty of people have tried Champix, some of them more than once, and failed to stay off.

I feel doomed to this existence as an addict. My goal is to completely get addicted to vaping bubblegum-flavoured steam, and then quit that.I'm not in any hurry. I'll gradually reduce the nicotine to zero, then wean off the vape. And when the inevitable relapse comes, I will fall off the wagon onto a sweet cloud of vapour.

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