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to feel positively evangelical about electronic cigarettes?

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 15:07

I was reading the AIBU thread about the husband vaping in the house with a newborn. I was struck by the passionate testimonials from former smokers, saying they couldn't have done it without e-cigs. I had tried a puff one of those things that look like a cigarette and was underwhelmed. But I didn't know about the more advanced set ups where you can fill them up with your flavour of choice. Anyway, I was intrigued. I smoked a pack a day for 25 years, and never quit more than a few months at a time, no matter which methods I tried.

nb84 encouraged me to give it a try and told me what to buy to get started.

I ordered a starter kit that night. It arrived the next day and I fell in love. I have three of them, now (one always charging, one near to hand, and one in my purse ready to go) and eight different flavours of the juice.

I don't want to smoke cigarettes any more. I like this better. It tastes really good. It feels good. And it doesn't stink. My hands, clothing, and breath don't reek anymore. I don't have to keep going outside. I don't have to feel like a smelly pariah. My husband can't smell it even when I'm sitting right next to him.

And I don't have to try and not think about the fact that my mother died of cancer after spending her last decade debilitated by emphysema.

And instead of paying £8 a day for fags, I can buy a week's worth of juice for £10. The hardware was less than £20 to get started and will require only £10 a month going forward. Of course, I can spend more. Many people geek out on it as a hobby because the gadgets are fun and constantly improving.

I'm not worried about putting on weight like people usually do when giving up the cancer sticks. In fact, I snack less. I no longer crave sweets. I would normally nibble all day, especially Haribo sweets. I don't want them anymore because I am tasting a bunch of sweet flavours all day long.

I'm so happy that I want to tell everyone - every smoker and everyone who loves a smoker - about it. Grin

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prettyfiestyforasmallone · 27/09/2013 21:38

Hi Katy.. I read the same thread bought one juat after and haven't had a cigarette in 2 days. I feel amazing and very proud of my self I got the clearmist one and my favourite flavour is grape :)

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IamNotLegend · 27/09/2013 21:54

I got my e-cig from //www.liberty-flights.Co.uk they've got a great forum there. Very informative and friendly. I also buy my liquid from //www.vapourtine.Co.uk, who have some brilliant offers.

I've been using my ecig since January. At first I thought I'd never get used to it but now I know I'd never go back to cigarettes.

My dentist congratulated me yesterday on quitting smoking. They've made such a massive difference to my health and I've converted a number of family members and friends.

My advice to anyone would be, don't be overwhelmed by all the different types of ecigs and flavours. Get yourself a starter kit, which usually come with a small bottle of liquid and take it from there. You'll soon work out the ins and outs of it all

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ditavonteesed · 27/09/2013 21:55

A fellow vape addict here, I stopped smoking a week before the summer hols as a friend who was a smoker recommended the kit to me, I stopped for nearly a year last year using the elites, this time I needed more. I have a kanga bcc and vision spinner and so many different flavour liquids. a 10mg liquid lasts me about 3 weeks. I love it, I said I was going to cut down and stop eventually but for now I enjoy vaping. I have also found that I had a cig and that was enough I went straight back to vaping. I dont do it in front of my kids. Yes it is anaddiction to replace fags but I always loved smoking so am happy that I found a way to get that pleasure without all the dangers.

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ditavonteesed · 27/09/2013 21:56

oh and currently vaping cherry coke. mmmmm

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stillenacht · 27/09/2013 21:56

Just ordered menthol elites starter kit. Quite excited not to be smoking anymoreSmile

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ditavonteesed · 27/09/2013 21:59

oh and to anyone starting out I would recommend ordering a menthol, any flocours you dont like are nice if mixed with menthol.

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IamNotLegend · 27/09/2013 22:04

Currently smoking energy cow, which is lush but also have a 30 ml bottle of fizzy trifle that sounded so nice but actually tastes like sickly custard. That's been put in the back of my vape drawer (kitchen drawer) along with vanilla, iced mint and caramel. I'm still working on discovering my preference!

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olgaga · 27/09/2013 22:04

Stayaway I respect your view and I would not encourage nicotine addiction.

However, nicotine in itself is not harmful. If it was, other methods of NRT - patches etc - would not be available.

It's the tobacco that kills. It's the tobacco that creates dangerous passive smoke effect. Not the nicotine.

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stillenacht · 27/09/2013 22:10

Can u get all those different flavours for elites or do I just have to stick to menthol?

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ditavonteesed · 27/09/2013 22:21

I think elites just come in fag or menthol flavours unless they have changed since I last used them

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stillenacht · 27/09/2013 22:24

Thanks ditaSmile will start with them and see how it goesSmile

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StayAwayFromTheEdge · 27/09/2013 22:36

Olga the point of NRT is that you are treated for short periods of time, not that you remain on it indefinitely (although I do realise that there are a number of patients addicted to the gum). The adverse cardiovascular effects of nicotine are well documented and should not be ignored.

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Lazysuzanne · 27/09/2013 23:15

I think vaping is a fantastic thing, I'm a non smoker.

There is a negative attitude from a few people.
I suspect the negative attitude stems from a feeling that smokers are evil pariah's who ought to suffer, grit thier teeth and fight to muster up superhuman amounts of willpower when they stop smoking.

The idea of an easy switch to something harmless and just as (if not more) enjoyable just makes them feel as if smokers are somehow cheating and getting off scott free.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 23:20

EXACTLY, Lazysuzanne! We're meant to be smelly pariahs who pay lots and lots of tax and then die early.

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Nessalina · 27/09/2013 23:24

Well done! Smile My MIL has just started vaping because it costs her less than half what she was spending on tobacco, and I'm so relieved! She coughs less and doesn't have to go and stand out in the rain to have a fag every hour, and she really enjoys the vaping, so I think it might keep her off the cigs for good. Definitely the way forward!! If the government manage the regulation properly I really think it could be the death of smoking for good Smile

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forumdonkey · 27/09/2013 23:24


Anyone wanting to try ecigs I would recommend you try a good one rather than a disposable or one that looks like a cig. I highly recommend one of these E Cig £12.85 plus a bottle of juice - same price as 2 pkts of cigs.

The money I have saved over the last 3 years is ridiculous - I've even managed to buy my fab sexy new car which without the money I'd saved I could not have afforded.
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Lazysuzanne · 27/09/2013 23:25

'The adverse cardiovascular effects of nicotine are well documented'

Really?
I'm not so sure about that!
My understanding is that nicotine is about as harmful as caffeine..so what if people feel addicted to vaping, I feel addicted to loads of things which aren't harmful..I cant see what the problem is Confused

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Lazysuzanne · 27/09/2013 23:28

'If the government manage the regulation properly I really think it could be the death of smoking for good'

but will they manage it properly?
govt makes a shed load of tax revenue from smoking and tobacco companies are probably in a position to exert pressure so that vaping doesnt replace smoking Angry

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 23:29

Also, lots of people decrease the nicotine over time. It's very easy to do, and it wasn't really possible with real cigarettes. Not to mention, it was pointless as the nicotine isn't the dangerous ingredient and it's really only a small part of the addiction.

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KatyTheCleaningLady · 27/09/2013 23:32

Something else I've noticed about kicking cigs: I've talked to many people in my life who say "I quit smoking 5/10/20 years ago, and I still want a cigarette every day. I want one right now."

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forumdonkey · 27/09/2013 23:32

Also none of the large pharmaceutical companies are connected with ECigs and they are mightily pissed that they missed this gem and are not profiting from it. It is proving to be the most successful NRT product and is the most successful in stopping people from using tobacco.

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Nessalina · 27/09/2013 23:32

As others have said, it's going to need some passionate lobbying, but I think they'll be hard pressed to ban the stuff because it's potentially bad for you, whilst still advocating cigarette sales which we know kill you!! Inevitably they'll have to work out a way to tax them so they're not losing out Confused

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WidowWadman · 27/09/2013 23:34

I'm not really buying that they're a cessation aid. And I'm slightly worried that all these lovely flavours and the fact you don't have to go outside etc actually may lead to people taking up using them who never smoked before, it's just a creation of a new market, because the old one is shrinking.

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olgaga · 27/09/2013 23:38

Yes stayaway - and if your nicotine addiction is unmanageable what then?

Let me explain. You give up the NRT and go back to tobacco in desperation. I don't know anyone who uses gum long term. It's vile, both in the mouth and for the stomach. It gives you terrible acid indigestion. It doesn't stop the craving for the throat hit.

What is your evidence for the incidence of heart disease as a result of long term NRT use? In my experience no-one uses them long term anyway so any information in that regard is purely speculative and serves to protect NRT manufacturers from liability.

The latest studies show that relapse rates are the same whether NRT is used or not.

Smokers die through long term tobacco use, not through nicotine addiction.

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forumdonkey · 27/09/2013 23:38

'I'm not really buying that they're a cessation aid'

Well they have been for me and everyone I know who uses them. I have yet to find anyone who was a non smoker and has decided to take up vaping. I can categorically say I could not and would not have managed to stop smoking tobacco without it.

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