To think AA Gill must be the most joyless journalist on the planet.

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He just moans and drones about everything. His restaurant reviews are almost unreadable and he seems to make a point of despising the kind of television programmes that the Hoi Polloi love. Why doesn't he just go and live on top of a tree someplace where he can look down on the rest of us, lip curled with total disdain.

But he does worse. Look at his vile comments about Mary Beard. They were as damaging and repugnant as nay name calling.

I would call the Times populist these days to put it politely.

Remember his remarks on Clare Balding?

He's FOREVER dishing out infantile insults.

The Coren quote on London Fashion Week further up the thread sounds spot on to me.
Toby Young and Melanie Phillips are a couple more joy givers I'd like to join Gill atop that tree.

Toby Young - AAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

The sight of that man gives me an Incredible Hulk style meltdown.

The Sunday Times is absolutely not a symbol of intelligent, worthwhile journalism.

And it's a Tory rag

I can't discuss Giles Coren without recourse to infantile name-calling so I'll bale out here. Though I might bale in again

If ever I feel my disdain towards Coren diminshing I simply re-read this and top my scorn levels right up again.

Thanks to whomever drew my attention to this on another thread months ago.

And when Coren is going on about why he so loves his wife (Red, July) which is majorly about her physical attractiveness, and belatedly about her cerebral qualities, I find his comments about models less principled and more about earning money.

But we all have to pay the mortgage.

And some of us do better than others.

Christ. It wasn't long after I said I wouldn't talk about the fat, hairy money-grubbing cunt, was it?

Most journalists are money-grubbing cunts. Some of us have the grace to admit it. And some of us aren't fat and hairy while condemning those who are.

And if we do, it would be nice if we did it in plain language.

Squoosh That letter is hysterical. Coren actually thinks his final sentences are a " little jingle that the reader takes with him into the weekend." Of all the words in the Times, his must qualify as the least likely to.

He is writing about eating a meal in a restaurant. NOT an evaluation of Middle East Politics. His writing is disposable trivia. And the idea that a sub editor might possibly be his equal or even better at English? God forbid. All editors know that if a writer won't kill his young, it might have to be done for them. Especially a never contender for the Pulitzer.

Coren has always been about the shiny superficial outside of things. The way he views his wife concurs w/ that. Thing is, she'll outgrow him.

So if the Sunday Times with all its awards for investigative journalism and whistle-blowing is a rag for the ignorant masses, where does that leave the rest of the news media? If you want to see ignorance, bigotry and prejudice in print this thread would be a good place to start.

Ha! The Sunday Times has gone to the absolute dogs in the last five years or so, it's a shadow of its former self.

I think the obvious difference between MN and the Sunday Times, as if it even needs pointing out, is that MN is an internet forum where anyone can post their thoughts and opinions, Gill and Coren make a living from their tosh.

The Times may have won awards in the past, but it has rapidly gone downhill over the last few years. Are you on their payroll Darcey? .

gulag's snout - the cigarettes rolled there will be very thin??

Re AA Gill being a dick - YANBU

89 posts about joyless twatish journalists and Rod Liddle hasn't been mentioned yet ?

He has now Moon

Wish I was on its payroll, then I could get paid for gems like this. If Gill and Coren make loads of cash from their rants then we are missing a trick here. Anyway, no-one has to buy the Sunday Times so if you can't keep up with its intellectually demanding content, stick to the Red Tops I say.

I think you mummies are just being really nasty to poor Adie and his clever friends. I am going to send him this thread and then you'll all be sorry when he writes about your mean ways in the lovely Sunday Times.

Nicker-less Gill, surely?

I will admit I am partly simply filled with envy at anyone who gets paid large sums to spout drivel. I am very good at spouting drivel, in the correct style and to length, for really quite reasonable rates. Should anyone fancy commissioning me

You need to shoot a baboon, MI.

I think Gill must be sleeping with somebody very influential. Or know where the bodies are buried.........

More deferrmeation insults.

I like the way Giles Coren's rant email ends on a stressed syllable. It does sound better when you do that.

YANBU to call AA Gill's writing joyless - I find it elegant, but terribly self-indulgent, and completely useless for actually figuring out whether a restaurant is any good. Agree with the poster who said he would be better suited to a column, or maybe the ST just needs to bring in a secondary restaurant reviewer who actually, y'know, reviews restaurants in a clear and useful way.

I would like to know which writers/publications the slaggers-off on this thread actually rate? I am an unashamed Liz Jones fan, and generally enjoy the writing in the Spectator (NOT Rod Liddle or the disgusting Taki though). Also love reading Boris Johnson's Telegraph columns. Always looking for more good stuff though!

I'm not going to defend AA Gill (can't stand him), but writing restaurant reviews week-in, week-out must get pretty dull. I imagine writing 800 or 1000 words on variations of "the starter was delicious" or "the vegetables were undercooked" isn't easy if you have to do it every week. So he writes to be entertaining instead.

Nothing to do w/ 'keeping up' w/ a content that is not that intellectually demanding Darcey.Still you appear to find it so .