To wish I hadn't upgraded my iPad to iOS 7?

[TylerHopkins]

I fecking hate it!

I know with most things it takes time to get used to a new look but I really think they've messed up this time. I don't think it adds anything. It's just so....flat.

I want iOS 6 back. ...

[Jaynebxl]

I haven't noticed much difference really except it wouldn't recharge for the first day. And the icons don't look as nice. Shame about that. Oh and I use notes a lot and used to like the buff coloured paper which has now gone white.

[Beastofburden]

A friend gets emails of photos of his DGC. He doesn't like the way the photos arrive with a pervert's roadmap showing the exact street (even building) where that photo was taken.

I am holding off for now. All very well saying sod listening to the customers, that business model only works if there is an endless stream of new blood. Mature businesses need repeat custom so they would be well advised not to sell us expensive gadgets and then mess with the operating system on the assumption we can't walk away.

Young people may love it, but there are more of us, and we have all the money. Just saying...

[friday16]

"A friend gets emails of photos of his DGC. He doesn't like the way the photos arrive with a pervert's roadmap showing the exact street (even building) where that photo was taken."

Geotagging of photographs is not a product of iOS7, so it's not clear what point you're making. It's been present for ages on GPS-equipped iPhones and since iOS 3, I think (so for practical purposes "every iPhone other than those bought in tiny quantities by the earliest of early adopters") and has been present in non-GPS equipped devices, via Skyhook and other location databases, since iOS4. I've not looked, but it's possible that the way it's displayed has changed; GPS tagging in EXIF metadata has been around for at least five years.

Mature businesses need repeat custom so they would be well advised not to sell us expensive gadgets and then mess with the operating system on the assumption we can't walk away.

Yes, Blackberry have done very well with that model, as have Microsoft's phone business. People who bought Blackberry stock at the peak are currently being offered 6% of what they paid and around two thirds of the staff have lost their jobs over the last twelve months, but they have indeed taken account of the claimed needs of their existing user base. And as Steve Ballmer said, "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get." Have Microsoft got their software in 60% of the phone market? It would appear not.

A minuscule number of existing Apple punters will go and get Android phones in response, and a homeopathic dilution of Apple users will go to whatever Windows Mobile is called this week. Given the criticism of iOS7 is mostly "it's too much like Android", "it's too brightly coloured and hard edged like Windows phones" and "it's different to iOS6" then it's not quite clear what, beyond spite, they'll gain from this move, but they will exist. But the impact of Apple of that would be approximately zero.

[friday16]

Oh, and if you think iOS has changed between releases to an extent that the mature user won't like, you should go and look at the changes to the Android UX over the recent releases. Because if you don't like iOS7, it's hard to see why jumping to Android Kitkat is going to be any more to your taste.

[EduCated]

friday Are you channeling Steve Jobs?

[EduCated]

[Beastofburden]

friday you do appear super confident that they (you?) have got this right but your very strong championing of this OS does look a teensy bit biased, you know . Not all of us who dislike the new system are pitiful dinosaurs with no IT knowledge. Nobody objects to updates and change, but sometimes changes are misjudged and badly designed. It can happen- even to the mighty apple.

Thanks for the info on geotagging, i'll warn my friend that he can and should turn it off.

[friday16]

Not all of us who dislike the new system are pitiful dinosaurs with no IT knowledge. Nobody objects to updates and change, but sometimes changes are misjudged and badly designed. It can happen- even to the mighty apple.

It can indeed. But it's unlikely that such misjudgements and bad design will emerge in the first few days of use by users who are mostly simply saying "I liked the old version more". Apple have sold nine million 5S and 5C devices in the past few days, (source) and the Apple online store in the UK is showing a rather vague "October" if you want to buy a 5S (they have stock of the 5C). Apple claim that around 200 million devices have already been upgraded. That's a hell of a customer base, and in light of that, claims about "businesses need repeat custom so they would be well advised not to sell us expensive gadgets and then mess with the operating system" do seem rather over-dramatic.

[GooseyLoosey]

My problems lie in reduced usability rather than the way in which it looks.

The battery life seems to have drastically reduced (on both Ipads I have upgraded to iOS 7).

The swipe up feature seems to work on an intermittant basis, unless there is some subtle swiping technique I have failed to grasp.

When you double click and it brings up all open apps, they are now spaced out so that you may have to scroll through several screens to find the one you want.

[Beastofburden]

friday, do you work for Apple?

[friday16]

BoB, no: nothing like. I used to do telecoms market analysis, though, for my crimes.

[Beastofburden]

just wondered :)

I can see that we differ on this OS; I will give it time to settle down before I upgrade but I am not ruling it out. Let's see how it goes!

[FuckItLifeIsTooShort]

I like it!

Agree that the new photo layout takes some getting used to but overall it is great, and I am not by any stretch of the imagination young. In fact, as a glasses wearer (and loser) the screens are much clearer and easier to read.

It has made spending too much money online soooo much easier!

On a side issue, someone mentioned that Belkin leads last longer? Is that so? I need to get some new ones and have been wondering whether to go eBay (china) cheap or invest.

[Doitnicelyplease]

I hated it at first, was too new and too different.

But I put my griping to the side and just adjusted to the new normal. It is surprising how quickly you forget how it used to be.

So I say chill - you will be used to it in no time at all :)

[BsshBossh]

We've upgraded our iPhones and iPads and I love it - both the aesthetic and the functionality. YABU.

[RustyBear]

Fuckit - in my experience the Belkin leads are just as prone to wearing as the Apple ones, though I haven't found either type too bad; out of about 40 I have had 3 wear at the junction of the wire and the connector - two Belkin and one Apple, and only one of the Belkin ones stopped working. I now reinforce the join with insulating tape and haven't had any more trouble.

[somethingscary]

I've got an amazon basics lead after the apple one lasted 5 weeks. It's very strong - only problem is that I have to take the phone case off to plug it in to the phone.

[changeforthebetter]

Angel - if I update it on my laptop iTunes then how does it get on to to my iPad? My head hurts. I am missing iPlayer which I use loads but doesn't seem to work now.

[friday16]

Angel - if I update it on my laptop iTunes then how does it get on to to my iPad?

Down the cable.

[JammieCodger]

MrsHelsBels, to delete individual messages, press and hold a message and you'll get a 'copy/more' option. Choose 'more' and you can bin selected messages on the next screen.

I'm with the naysayers. It's very ugly, and the calendar's a mess.

[GwendolineMaryLacey]

Hear hear Friday

I can remember my mother staring mutinously at the first colour TV we ever got and whining "I don't liiiiiike it, can we have our black and white one back?" Nothing has changed.

[SoupDragon]

So I say chill - you will be used to it in no time at all

I am used to the constant pain from my back - that doesn't make it a good thing :o

[EduCated]

Things that are better:
-Safari
-The lock screen
-The control centre (once I turned it off in app)
-Twitter and FB apps
-Reminders
-Camera

Things that need improving:
-Calendar
-Photos
-The colour scheme on the app icons
-Notes
-Safari tabs on iPhone

[Faverolles]

I've commented before about the slidey up bit at the bottom (control panel?)
It is driving me mad. When I don't want it, but I'm scrolling up a page, it slides it up every fecking time. When I want it, it will not work.
Doing My Head In!

Thank you to whoever said how to switch off the wallpaper seasickness bit :)

[EduCated]

You can switch the Control Centre slidey up bit so that it doesn't work in apps, I kept doing the same with scrolling.