To speak to the school?

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I've just been to collect my son from his school and he's told me that he won't be cast in his school Christmas play but all the other children will.

I am fumming. I am going to go and speak to his teacher first thing tomorrow morning but I am so angry that I can't work out whether I'm being reasonable or not.

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If, as I have gathered from her postings on here, the OP wrote to the school and withdrew her child from ALL religious teaching and events at the school, I cannot see why the school would need to ask for any further clarification, filee.

Nor do I see why you think the school has time to double- and triple-check what the parents explicitly tell them.

I think being in a play is very different to asking a child to worship in assembly.

For one it's a performance. It may be a nativity about the Christian story but it's using made up lines and actors. It's not real.

Worship in assembly or teaching it in RE implies truth. They are asking you to pray or sing to God as a reality.

Thanks newname . I'd normally just google but my birthday (as it is today) is my yearly lazy day. True fact!

Many happy returns

But im not in the plymouthbrethren. I am going back to school tomorrow to see if the headteacher will talk about shepherds and maybe sheep. I dont want my son to open any curtains.

Well, having just wasted spent 40 minutes reading this thread I'm left with nothing to add that hasn't already been said.
But just for the record:
OP - YABU and
filee - YABU too

and that's 40 minutes of your life your never going to get back!

Just saw your last post OP. Yes that sounds like a good compromise. Let him play the part of an atheistical sheep :)

But I bet in that 40 minutes you learnt something new - what fumming was

Rosepettel - is this you?

If it is not you (and i have always enjoyed your threads) please be aware that 'fumming' is the act of farting and having semen come out because the person had just had anal sex. I think Louise has not been a good influence for you.

So he's not in a play ......you won't have to attend ,one less thing for you to do ! Excellent outcome imo.

You should demand he is the narrator (non religious part) and the main one obviously...

What happens when if your child realises that certificates are handed out in certain assemblies?

Will you demand he goes to the award ones but not the others?

[bonkers]

Filee do you want to know why we don't ring and clarify with parents about every little issue when they have made their point very clear in a letter already:

Teacher : "Hello Mrs X, I'm ringing about the school nativity play. I know you don't want little Johnny to receive any religious instruction, but I want to know if you want us to cast him in the nativity play. He could stand in the back row and wave a pot plant or something."
Parent: "Are you fucking kidding me? I don't want my little darling indoctrinated in to your fairy tales, you're a fucking idiot, can't you bloody read the letter I wrote? Why are you teaching children if you've got no fucking reading comprehension............... .

That's why.

OP why don't you want your DC to open any curtains, if that's not too much of a personal question to ask? Do you have something against them?

I still think your DS should play Herod the triangle during the dance of the tinsel-clad tiny ones.

This can't end with my innocuous comment.

It was about fucking curtains and triangles FFS!

I don't think it will end here, ItIsKnown. I think everyone else has gone to bed. This has got 1000 post thread written all over it.

Second trimester insomnia here. OP's last post has made me think this is all a wind-up.

This thread (and the other one) are bloody hilarious and ridiculous.

Thanks everyone for a great laugh.

OP, YABU. And YABI (imaginary).

.......there's just no words.

I cannot form a coherent sentence after reading the rest of this.

OP, you are...bizarre. I cannot get my head around this being a real thread. And the poor poster who is desperately battling the rest of the thread, arguing that the OP is right...wow.

The reason everyone is disagreeing with you filee is because there is no way a person would have such strong beliefs about religion that they withdraw their child from all assemblies, religious instruction, singing...and then decide that the school is wrong for not giving him a part in the nativity play.

At ds2 school, they do not do a nativity, they do a Christmas play. There is no religious aspect to it. No hymns,no baby Jesus, nothing like that at all, because it is a very religiously diverse school and if they did a nativity, half the class wouldn't be allowed to take part.

That is a christmas play. With no religious content.

The OP is talking about a nativity play. The story of the birth of Jesus. Why on earth would she want her DS in it?
And why would the school think they need to ask her, when she has already said NO GOD STUFF. In a letter.

It's ridiculous.

MaryZ what course are you doing at college? I start my course in October. I am slightly worried I am too bloody old to learn anything :(

Shepherds: Christians believe they received a visitation from a messenger from GOD (angels) telling them that the SON OF GOD had been born and to go to Bethlehem to go and visit JESUS.

Pretty much like "God shit" as far as I'm concerned.

"I think ideally the school would have spoken to the parents first and got an understanding of what level of involvement they would be okay with. So that the child still got involved with such a big event (where possible) and so that this sort of issue didn't arise."

I think it is up to the parents to proactively opt out, not up to the teachers to waste time chase them for permission.

I am going back to school tomorrow to see if the headteacher will talk about shepherds

The head teacher already offered your son the part of a shepherd.

You threw a hissy fit about it being a "god part"

Do try to be consistent, dear.

What fun!
Parent wants child withdrawn from anything to do with religion.
Parent wakes up to the fact that this means not being in a Christmas play about Christmas.
Instead of going into school to have a reasonable discussion, about including him, she is furious that they had done as she asked.
School immediately say that of course he can take part, he can be a shepherd.
Parent turns it down as a 'God part'.
Parent wakes up to the fact that any parts in a nativity play are going to be God parts and accepts that he can be a shepherd or a sheep.

Is this the end of the saga or is there more to come?

All schools these days cover a wide range of religions and religious festivals. So are you withdrawing him from all of these?