to think this class system only exists on MN?

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All the time I hear "middle class" bashing on here.

Or "working class" guilt. Only on MN.

I wouldn't have a clue what class I am or what class my friends are, or the people I work with are.

It doesn't even occur to me, and I never hear it mentioned in day to day life

I think it is an English thing as we don't really care in scotland or maybe I just don't care but people mix and match their lives so a working class person might love museums and art and give their children music lessons,

no never heard anyone in RL talk about class at all.

I haven't either thebody maybe mumsnet just gives people an excuse to say middle classness loads, it just seems the middle class that is most talked about thing on here though

In rl people's class never rears it's head.
BUT I met a woman on the ferry over summer who summed up all those judgy stealth boasty threads I have seen on MN over the years. The questions, the name dropping, the not very stealthy boasts. DH and I were pissing ourselves. She was a complete parody.
I was heartily pleased that we live in Lancashire and not Surrey if she was typical

people near me tend to think they are better than somebody by their house and estate they live on but that is just boasting isn't it ? rather than a class thing.

I was interviewing someone for a job or the other way around - how would I know what class they are?

I think the point is that for UC and some jobs there would not be an interview - it worked this way for my brothers who fell in with the Eton crowd at uni!

The fact that people don't make direct reference to class isn't the point.

We all make inferences about other people's socioeconomic status, and socioeconomic status plays a large role in determining who gets what in life.

The well off tend to be Better educated with better health

I think (and in my experience) people are as obsessed with class in real life as they are on here. I find it very interesting.

Most people seem to describe themselves as middle class (in here and real life), I find, even those with very working class roots (which I find odd).

only the middle class care about class
I find it's more the wannabe middle class that care more.

I wonder if it because people are surrounded by their class and need to keep it all up It confuses me not that i give it much daily thought just when i see it on here because I don't understand it, I have been told on a previous thread that because i am confused and dont really get it I am probab;y very working class made me

I find the wannabe middle class mention how middle class they are at every opportunity (in case you forget ).

I'm British and I can't say I particularly notice class. I don't really understand it either to be honest :)

It is all a pointless status nonsense the need to identify seems to overcome some mumsnetters people

I have never once heard anyone in real life say I'm middle/working class.

I find the people that discuss it and seem obsessed by it rather weird.

I didn't notice it when I was younger, more aware of it now. I do wonder if living in the home counties is what makes it so obvious to me. Hard not to notice the massive class differences when you are surrounded by such contrasting towns/villages.

We come out as elite. This is mostly due to my DH's job but I was brought up UC (although I went to grammar school - twisted kent system and my parents wouldn't let me board). DH wnet to the local comp, his parents were brought up working class and very poor although were a teacher and an engineer and I reckon MIL has more money than my mum now. MIL looks down her nose at her hairdresser and the sort of people who go on holiday to Spain. My mum has lunch with her hairdresser and thinks everyone should have the holiday they enjoy. MIL also openly sneers at posh people.

MIL and FIL act(ed) working class but looked down on it.

DH still thinks he's working class even though his success is what makes us elite. The DC think it's all a lot of codswallop - just had a chat with DD who asked how do you two know all these people - DD and DS say they prefer just hanging out with ordinary people.

Boils down to money and conduct. Money with application and a dose of good luck can be earned. Conduct boils down to niceness, honesty, and being oneself in a straightforward way.

And I buy the basics: rice, pasta, waters, tins, etc., in Asda because it's cheaper and whilst I'm ther stock up for the week as well because there's nothing wrong with what they sell and however much money you have there's no point spending mre than u have to - ever.

On phone - excuse typos please.

Mumsnet is obsessed with class, stealth (and not) boasting abound.

I have never met anyone in real life who has actually talked about class, apart from a friend of mine who is desperate to be seen as posh and has slowly gone bonkers over the years (possibly as a result).

but what is 'elite' and what are 'ordinary people'?

Correction: I have never heard anyone talk about their own class IRL.

why do they say ordinary people though what is common- ordinary people ?

I think they mean the people they know who are nice, kind, honest and straightforward regardless of who they are, where they live and what they have.

Elite is as defined in the researh in a post above.

if you want to know what elite means just google a dictionary definition

Oh i get you now married I read it so much different I guess If you are in certain circles like all people some nice some not so much ,

Guess my social class, because I have no clue:

HGV driver, paid-for education, obese, possesses cafetiere, prison haircut, RP accent, says "fuck" a LOT, drinks gin, eats at KFC, has hit people while sober, OU degree, votes Labour, lives on estate, drinks Amarone di Valpolicella, announces farts, drinks St Jean de Minervois, DD has tricolor hair and says "innit", has hit people while drunk, drinks Brewdog, changes shirt every other day.

I have no idea what social class you are, but you sound awful.

Tends to agree with subliminal